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Unless they are going to cut the points on the other Knights they can't have a better version costing the same unless they give it some sort of suitable downside like your brace idea, although I'd expect something with a more serious downside unless the D weapon was extra points on top of the other options.

I'd agree with 7 max, although I think it'll stay at 6. The Warhound only has 9, doesn't get the invulnerable while does get two void shields (I'd prefer the invulnerable) and is ~50% more expensive than the average Knight.

ThirstySpaceMan wrote:I suggested 7 since FW took that leap on their own with the atrapos. I think the loss of str D is pretty gnarly to a knight. Any thing big closes with it or little guys if he is braced would result in a can opening I think. As an added downside make him slow also suiting the point balance and keeping with rumored intended role. It seems like gw throw darts at a points chart. But if w look at str d as say a lascan and a half points cost that's still roughly 60pts on a low side. I based that off codex sm dev cost to get equivalent stats. Though 35 seems standard across codexs. So what would D be in pets cost?

I hadn't looked at the rules for the Atrapos as mine is still in its box waiting its turn to get built and painted. Looking at those rules I could see the heavier knights costing around the same, although I still think a longer ranged D weapon should cost more, at least 50 points an arm as the Knight would be encroaching on the bigger Warhound.

BrookM wrote:I'm more annoyed that there will be a newer version when I got the gaming bundle not that long ago.

I'm annoyed if they don't offer it in the same faux leather binding as the limited edition as it'll throw out my 1 to 3 boxset. I don't like keeping older books as I run low on shelf space for them.

They missed a trick not adding in the Solar Aux. transfers in the Solar Aux. bundle.

Nah, it'll be three identical marines on one base, you'll know which is the real Alpharius because he'll have a baby stapled to his head.

If it was Word Bearers they'd be wearing black trousers, white shirt, black tie and have a big selection of pamphlets on the Chaos Gods in their identical backpacks.

Pre Heresy version would have Alpharius in a baby carrier on the Emperor's back.

 the_Armyman wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:
They missed a trick not adding in the Solar Aux. transfers in the Solar Aux. bundle.

Does anyone legitimately play Solar Auxilia with actual FW Solar Auxilia miniatures? I don't think I've ever seen a batrep or even a full army pic of SA here on Dakka. Everyone lauds the beauty of the army, but no one's willing to spend a couple grand on a bunch of non-Marine cannon fodder

They are reasonably easy to proxy with alternate models that are usually much cheaper so I'm not surprised. A Solar Aux. force is on my list to buy once I finish my UM but even I who buys a ton of FW am looking at alternates.

I'd be surprised if they weren't on the long term road map once HH is finished. I can't see FW taking on more projects until HH is finished.

 Yodhrin wrote:
I appreciate you responding so reasonably, on second reading the tone of my post can be read as more confrontational than I intended. ASD stands for Autism Spectrum Disorder. Honestly, I hadn't thought to email them about this, as frankly my experience is that companies don't give a gak about accommodating disabilities and disorders unless required by law, and if people like myself or folk who can't make it due to lack of money or distance to travel crossed their minds at all the last time it came up they evidently didn't consider that important enough to override their stated(or, if different, private) reason/s for not permitting videos.

I went to the HH weekender last year and there were a few disabled people, the GW people there were very accommodating of them and their carers. I'll knock GW for a lot of things but never customer service.

Is the Stormbird def. being released? From the WD previews it looked like it'd be the Masterdon at the weekender?

Just love the new iron circle, they are the first legion dedicated unit that has actually made me want to start a new army just to be able to play them.

Not sure if its just time but I really rather like the Stormbird now. My Thunderhawk doesn't get much use as its a pain on the table so the Stormbird would get even less but I really like it.

Complete disappointment about the timescales for the chaos Warlord, 2 years before they start working on it is too long for me to wait. I'm going to push the button on the order at the end of the month if I can get the new head and claw. Grinding off the imperial eagles, some chains, some tusks and get it painted to match my other Titans, should sort it.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:
Just love the new iron circle, they are the first legion dedicated unit that has actually made me want to start a new army just to be able to play them.

Not sure if its just time but I really rather like the Stormbird now. My Thunderhawk doesn't get much use as its a pain on the table so the Stormbird would get even less but I really like it.

Complete disappointment about the timescales for the chaos Warlord, 2 years before they start working on it is too long for me to wait. I'm going to push the button on the order at the end of the month if I can get the new head and claw. Grinding off the imperial eagles, some chains, some tusks and get it painted to match my other Titans, should sort it.

I don't think it will be 2 years before they start working on it, but 2 years before it shows up. Especially with CAD, the core of the Warlord is done. most the changes will be in replacing all the armor plates and some added chaotic detail work. Maybe a tail. And then a chaotic set of weapons. And FW only has so many resources for the big superheavy kits, and the Stormbird is the next "kingpiece" kit coming out.

I would guess that the Stormbird is just about finished if they are showing off a painted version, they normally only paint the first production copies, at least how that was with the Warlord.

If they give it a tail then it'll be a Banelord? They've been talking up Banelords in some of the recent HH books. I don't really want the Banelord, I don't like the concept of a tail on something that size.

It'll be a lot of work to do it to the same standard as the Chaos Reaver or Warhounds, its a lot more than a simple reskin, especially when you include all the weapon options. I'm done waiting, I've Eldar Phantoms to kill!

Finally, I've been waiting for a Leviathan Dread bundle since I saw you could take them as a Talon, but this is one of those zero discount bundles so I was all

I rang them, and they also told me that its the old one, they said to me that they don't yet have a release date for the new one.

Would be nice if they did the guns seperately so you could use them with this: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Realm-of-Battle-Imperial-Primus-Redoubt

I agree with Daston, I hardly use my Thunderhawk compared to my Titans. However the Masterdon is going to be painful to move around on the table based on my experience with the Ordinatus as scenery gets in the way.

beast_gts wrote:
Where's my Mastodon!

Guess they have saved it for the FW open day on 17th July? Debating on the Stormbird, I hardly use my Thunderhawk as it is.

 Vector Strike wrote:
Any news on IA 14?

Nothing official, but I'd guess if it isn't out at Warhammer fest it'll be at the FW open day in July.

Really like the new Ursurax.

 Mr. Grey wrote:
Horus Heresy: Age of Darkness Army List book = the old Crusade Army List book, correct? Did they announce a general release date for that yet?

They were talking about the limited edition black "leather" version being out for the FW open day in July, along with the new IA book. They also said they have dropped the numbers for IA books as it got too complicated to number with the reprints; they are going to keep the numbers for the HH books.

The ursarax had sold out by the time I got to the front of the queue, gutted.

Heard that the mastodon had to be recut again to get the molds to work, even then they only last 5-7 goes. It was a straight choice between the mastodon and the Stormbird at this event, they chose the Stormbird even though they only had 5 ready (3 for Saturday and 2 for Sunday). Mastodon will be at the FW Open day in July apparently.

I think Jez said they had over 30 unused Titan variants that they can use for AD. Speaking of Titans, the Chaos Titan will not be done till after they finish the first round of Primarchs.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
I think they'll do the Emperor class eventually. But that might be many many years away. And once they start it will be even more years away.

They stated outright during the panel that they will not do it. Makes me wonder if the Warlord was a pain.

I'm not convinced that after the (impressive) initial flurry of sales it hasn't sold as quickly as they hoped. Yesterday Alan Merret said that the old style dreadnoughts were scrapped because the contemptors had stolen all of their sales, so they seem more aggressive about retiring models that aren't selling...

I'm convinced they are waiting till Terra to do Dorn as his rules suck with that chainsword.

I went yesterday, managed to pick up a Mastodon, they had around 18 of them, I wasn't close enough to the front to count exactly. Most if not all had sold by the end of the day.

The kit doesn't look too hard to build, but it'll be a while before mine is finished as my friend is building and painting mine for me.

Yesterday felt a bit lack luster other than the specialist games section. No seminars, not much new FW 30k stuff to show off other than some of the older stuff is now finally painted so it must be getting close to being released.

The early casts are always better quality for a number of reasons, and I usually buy at a launch event meaning nearly all my FW is an early cast, so I'm probably not the best person to judge. However it looks good to me, the main parts line up fine.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:
I'm convinced they are waiting till Terra to do Dorn as his rules suck with that chainsword.

His Chainsword isn't unwieldy anymore.

That would go a long way to improving him to the level he should be, good to hear!

You know it makes sense as it'll look awesome on the table. I had to order one as well, I'd better spend the next two weeks painting to make up for it.

I really thought this wouldn't come out till the New Year open day, I wonder what they will have instead?

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 Breotan wrote:

 SirDonlad wrote:
FFS forgeworld, why make it a LoW?

The Noble Houses of the Knights Questoris needed one?

Well, they can take it with a Questoris Rank.

It is a LoW so AdMech can take it.

Does that mean it moves from the LoW spot or does it just get the rank bonuses and stays as a LoW?

Mine is meant to arrive by the end of today, I'm planning on building him tonight so I should be able to post a picture with him next to my Warhounds and Reaver if people want to see a size comparison?

There are chairs in all of the Cerastus knights, I stuck skeletons in mine as mine are Chaos, but you can get this: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Knight-Scion-Seated

beast_gts wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:
There are chairs in all of the Cerastus knights, I stuck skeletons in mine as mine are Chaos, but you can get this: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Knight-Scion-Seated

Someone asked (as it's not in any of the photos in the store)


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 BrookM wrote:
And I just got my shipping confirmation, though it says Standard Shipping. I thought orders over 250 quid got bumped to express shipping automatically?

They should, but sometimes the store only selects 'Standard' (but you can change it to Express for free). Did it say Standard at check-out? Either way, call them quickly - it might not have left yet!

Ah cool, didn't realise.

I had to manually edit my shipping as well to get it to express.

My UPS man doesn't normally show up till about 5pm around Christmas, the fact that I know that and the only thing he delivers for me is FW stuff, means I order way to much stuff.

Finally finished the rough build, obviously I've not put the shielding on as it needs painting seperate. You can see its about an inch shorter than my Warhound, if the Warhound stood straight.

Nice kit, but needs a lot of pinning due to the weight.

 BrookM wrote:
Thanks for sharing!

And oh man, those feet do not look sturdy at all!

Yup, the toes need brass rods as they are load bearing on a tiny lip. I'm going to base it and re-enforce the central part of the foot where you can't see it. It didn't come with a base :/

 CragHack wrote:
How are the hip joints? Is it the same crap like on GWs Knights, or can you articulate the joint freely, like Cerastus chassis?

just like the Cerastus, fully articulated ball and hip joint.


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 BrookM wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Thanks for sharing!

And oh man, those feet do not look sturdy at all!

Yup, the toes need brass rods as they are load bearing on a tiny lip. I'm going to base it and re-enforce the central part of the foot where you can't see it. It didn't come with a base :/

Does it fit onto the same size base as regular Knights, or are those way too small?

edit.

Also, how easily is it to swap out the autocannons for lascannons?

it'd fit the feet but it would be a little bit small I think. I'm going with custom cut hardboard. Very easy if you put in a bit of blue tack, magnets would be a pain as it's a deep socket.