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 Tactical_Spam wrote:
The racial make up of the Imperium is 100% Australians. Its the reason the Imperium has survived for so long.


If everyone in 40k was an Aussie, no one would be scared off the Tyranids, so clearly that's not true. The Blood Ravens would also be despised heretics, and melee combat would be even more important.

With regards to the topic at hand, yeah GW hasn't and probably isn't going to bother adding more obvious races and colours. Lets face it, if they did change something up here instead of providing new models (guard please?) half the fanbase would be pissed off at them and we'd get back into the fun social politics I try to keep out of my hobbies.
As a result, its up to you to make your army however you want them to be. Making an Aussie-based army? You can use just about every modern race, go nuts.

Also, none of the books I've read mention racism against anything other than mutants. Plenty of class-ism, snobbery, and being scornful of other planets as less evolved (which is the closest 40k comes), but no racism like we know it. I always took it as part of the irony that such a brutal dictatorship treats people equally regardless of skin colour and (mostly) gender. 40k equality: you're all expendable.

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 guardpiper wrote:
the Dark Angles had a strong native american theme,


ONE of the DA recruiting worlds had that theme. Back in RT. It may still be so, but also, since that world WAS subject to a genestealer infestation, they may very well have stopped recruiting until the population density restabilised (those DA under Broken Knife DID purge it, but still ... ).
Also, unlike many chapters, the DA no longer have a "homeworld" and recruit from a number of different worlds to get suitable candidates (Caliban went Ka-blooooie). Much like the Black Templars (crusading chapter, based on ships, no "homeworld" to recruit from).

As to the "racial" makeup of the imperium ... It's made up of "us" and "not us". Us being "humans".

The old definitions (of "race") will no longer hold up, much lke the other artificial concepts like "nation states". Humanity is THE race (in all of it's multicoloured glory). Including those stable and inherited mutations the abhumans, the psykers/nulls and navigator families (which seem to be more inbred than any three royal families). Each planet will have a variety of environmental zones, and each world's population will have adapted (or been adapted) to suit those areas, so there'll be pale skinned peoples from arctic/antarctic zones, darker skinned peoples from equatorial zones and all varieties in between.

I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.

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Yeah Dark Angles use to have a Native American theme to them.. which was part of the reason that they used Feathers on their armour.. but that fluff went away in the wind, especially with the Horus Hersey
   
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 Tactical_Spam wrote:
The racial make up of the Imperium is 100% Australians. Its the reason the Imperium has survived for so long.


is that a reference to tf2?


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Another thing is that the Eldar all look like tall, slim Caucasians with pointy ears. Probably less variation than humans haha

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There was enough isolation and time just in the long night that there could have been speciation (and was, rattlings, ogryn, and squats are just a few examples). Wondering which pre-diaspora earth ethnicity one belonged to would be considered odd, kind of like wondering what tribe of Neandertals you descended from. Academically everyone knows holy terra is the birthplace of mankind, just like in the modern day everyone knows humans are originally from Africa. Despite knowing where my species originated I don't think of myself as African or belonging to one of the tribes/nationalities who once dwelled there.

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 Grimgold wrote:
Wondering which pre-diaspora earth ethnicity one belonged to would be considered odd, kind of like wondering what tribe of Neandertals you descended from.

it depends. humans are good at picking on differences all the time
   
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Maximus Bitch wrote:
 Tactical_Spam wrote:
The racial make up of the Imperium is 100% Australians. Its the reason the Imperium has survived for so long.


is that a reference to tf2?


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Another thing is that the Eldar all look like tall, slim Caucasians with pointy ears. Probably less variation than humans haha


More like a reference to Mad Max.
Aussies totally survive the apocalypse by putting spikes on V8s.

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 Grimgold wrote:
There was enough isolation and time just in the long night that there could have been speciation (and was, rattlings, ogryn, and squats are just a few examples). Wondering which pre-diaspora earth ethnicity one belonged to would be considered odd, kind of like wondering what tribe of Neandertals you descended from. Academically everyone knows holy terra is the birthplace of mankind, just like in the modern day everyone knows humans are originally from Africa. Despite knowing where my species originated I don't think of myself as African or belonging to one of the tribes/nationalities who once dwelled there.


well right now there is some talk, mind you just this side of fringe science but talk none the less that there were 3 starting points for humans which could also explain some issues, (think dogs or cats of various pedigrees and such), but mind you some of the oldest bones have been found in Africa, but on the other hand the oldest structures have been found in the Caucuses, and yes I never could understand people who put something American to describe them, me i'm an American, was born in America and will most likely die in America unless California splits off, but then will still move back to America anyway

now about Humans being from Terra, if you go on the far side of fringe science we are from another planet


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 Grimgold wrote:
There was enough isolation and time just in the long night that there could have been speciation (and was, rattlings, ogryn, and squats are just a few examples). Wondering which pre-diaspora earth ethnicity one belonged to would be considered odd, kind of like wondering what tribe of Neandertals you descended from. Academically everyone knows holy terra is the birthplace of mankind, just like in the modern day everyone knows humans are originally from Africa. Despite knowing where my species originated I don't think of myself as African or belonging to one of the tribes/nationalities who once dwelled there.


Ancestory.com
Who do you think you are?
DNA Ancestory
There's enough people who ask the question and try to follow strains of their family tree back to something interesting that people can make a business from it.
One of my buddies is a vet, got his mongrel dog DNA tested to find out what breeds it was, and was given a list with percentages made me curious to find out what breeds my own dog might be, he was a rescue job of sorts, well trained but still unwanted - answers to "Mongrel".

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 Dakka Wolf wrote:
 Grimgold wrote:
There was enough isolation and time just in the long night that there could have been speciation (and was, rattlings, ogryn, and squats are just a few examples). Wondering which pre-diaspora earth ethnicity one belonged to would be considered odd, kind of like wondering what tribe of Neandertals you descended from. Academically everyone knows holy terra is the birthplace of mankind, just like in the modern day everyone knows humans are originally from Africa. Despite knowing where my species originated I don't think of myself as African or belonging to one of the tribes/nationalities who once dwelled there.


Ancestory.com
Who do you think you are?
DNA Ancestory
There's enough people who ask the question and try to follow strains of their family tree back to something interesting that people can make a business from it.
One of my buddies is a vet, got his mongrel dog DNA tested to find out what breeds it was, and was given a list with percentages made me curious to find out what breeds my own dog might be, he was a rescue job of sorts, well trained but still unwanted - answers to "Mongrel".


well that just proves foolish people and their money are soon parted, me i'm an American mutt and thats all I need to know.

Thinks Palladium books screwed the pooch on the Robotech project. 
   
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 guardpiper wrote:
The Salamanders are black, the White Scars are mongols, the Dark Angles had a strong native american theme, and if you look at some of the older models like the last chancers you see asian and native american guys. So there is a diversity of races/skin tones. Not to mention it being a galaxy wide empire, human skin tones would adjust to different planetary conditions, so you paint IG who have blue skin and come up with a decent reason for it.


Those are cultural allusions, though; not necessarily "racial" ones. Feel free to mix them up (for example, David Weber's Honor Harrington series has a planet populated by colonists of sub-Saharan phenotype; however, due to the limited genetic diversity, they're all nearly albino; African facial structures and curly hair, but with pale skin and blond hair).

Also, "abhumans" are still considered part of humanity - that's why they're not persecuted as xenos (apart from beastmen); that includes halflings, dwarves, orgres, cat-people, fish-people, tall, skinny low-gravity-adapted people and Neanderthals. Amongst all that, you can have all the shades of pinky-brown you like.
   
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Asterios wrote:
 Dakka Wolf wrote:
 Grimgold wrote:
There was enough isolation and time just in the long night that there could have been speciation (and was, rattlings, ogryn, and squats are just a few examples). Wondering which pre-diaspora earth ethnicity one belonged to would be considered odd, kind of like wondering what tribe of Neandertals you descended from. Academically everyone knows holy terra is the birthplace of mankind, just like in the modern day everyone knows humans are originally from Africa. Despite knowing where my species originated I don't think of myself as African or belonging to one of the tribes/nationalities who once dwelled there.


Ancestory.com
Who do you think you are?
DNA Ancestory
There's enough people who ask the question and try to follow strains of their family tree back to something interesting that people can make a business from it.
One of my buddies is a vet, got his mongrel dog DNA tested to find out what breeds it was, and was given a list with percentages made me curious to find out what breeds my own dog might be, he was a rescue job of sorts, well trained but still unwanted - answers to "Mongrel".


well that just proves foolish people and their money are soon parted, me i'm an American mutt and thats all I need to know.


No kidding. As guys who spend hundreds of dollars, hours and space on little plastic figures totally aren't in glass houses when we judge other's money spending habits.
On a side note - you know a "mutt" by the dictionary is specifically an unknown canine or a stupid person right? Surely you mean a "mongrel"?

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 Dakka Wolf wrote:
Asterios wrote:
 Dakka Wolf wrote:
 Grimgold wrote:
There was enough isolation and time just in the long night that there could have been speciation (and was, rattlings, ogryn, and squats are just a few examples). Wondering which pre-diaspora earth ethnicity one belonged to would be considered odd, kind of like wondering what tribe of Neandertals you descended from. Academically everyone knows holy terra is the birthplace of mankind, just like in the modern day everyone knows humans are originally from Africa. Despite knowing where my species originated I don't think of myself as African or belonging to one of the tribes/nationalities who once dwelled there.


Ancestory.com
Who do you think you are?
DNA Ancestory
There's enough people who ask the question and try to follow strains of their family tree back to something interesting that people can make a business from it.
One of my buddies is a vet, got his mongrel dog DNA tested to find out what breeds it was, and was given a list with percentages made me curious to find out what breeds my own dog might be, he was a rescue job of sorts, well trained but still unwanted - answers to "Mongrel".


well that just proves foolish people and their money are soon parted, me i'm an American mutt and thats all I need to know.


No kidding. As guys who spend hundreds of dollars, hours and space on little plastic figures totally aren't in glass houses when we judge other's money spending habits.
On a side note - you know a "mutt" by the dictionary is specifically an unknown canine or a stupid person right? Surely you mean a "mongrel"?


mutt, mongrel same thing to me, as to plastic men its an investment and hobby and relaxing, as to doing DNA checks on you or your dog, tell me will that DNA check change your life? will it make you love your animal more or less or look at it differently? will the DNA check on yourself change your status? or abruptly change your life for the better or worse? what will it do? does anybody but you care about it?

also noticed the pic of Muttley as your avatar

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As people have said, if you want to paint people orange, go for it.

Racial variation in 40k is more than "the three purported major races of humankind (Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid)" we have now. Caucasians look to have started appearing as far back as 45,000 years ago, and "Ancient and modern "Caucasoid" populations were thus held to have ranged in complexion from white to dark brown" [Taken from Wikipedia]. These are in fairly stable planetary conditions though.

If you launch people out to live on non-Earth planets, and they'll adapt and change.
More UV, darker skin.
Higher gravity, stockier frame.
Higher-tech, weaker musculature.
Much wetter, webbing.
Brighter light, smaller eyes.
etc

Squats are from high-G planets, Ratlings and Ogryns from similarly different worlds. Breeding amongst species would go beyond more than just humanity, and hybrids would appear. They might just show as having skin colouration changes.
Mutants are hunted down, but there will be allowances and exceptions.

Isolation can be a bad thing, though, and once a dominant group defeats those who do not look the same as them, the population will standardise to that type. Single-type populations will happen. If they happened early enough, the whole planet might look just like you or me.

So, after tens of thousands of years, Humanity would lose its current classifications, in wildly different ways to how we think of people around now.

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 Skinnereal wrote:
As people have said, if you want to paint people orange, go for it.

Racial variation in 40k is more than "the three purported major races of humankind (Caucasoid, Mongoloid, Negroid)" we have now. Caucasians look to have started appearing as far back as 45,000 years ago, and "Ancient and modern "Caucasoid" populations were thus held to have ranged in complexion from white to dark brown" [Taken from Wikipedia]. These are in fairly stable planetary conditions though.

If you launch people out to live on non-Earth planets, and they'll adapt and change.
More UV, darker skin.
Higher gravity, stockier frame.
Higher-tech, weaker musculature.
Much wetter, webbing.
Brighter light, smaller eyes.
etc

Squats are from high-G planets, Ratlings and Ogryns from similarly different worlds. Breeding amongst species would go beyond more than just humanity, and hybrids would appear. They might just show as having skin colouration changes.
Mutants are hunted down, but there will be allowances and exceptions.

Isolation can be a bad thing, though, and once a dominant group defeats those who do not look the same as them, the population will standardise to that type. Single-type populations will happen. If they happened early enough, the whole planet might look just like you or me.

So, after tens of thousands of years, Humanity would lose its current classifications, in wildly different ways to how we think of people around now.


yeah who knows, humanity could have devolped into one eyed, one horn, flying purple people eaters

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Okay, I think this is a silly question, but whatever.
GW has never explicitly dealt with the issue of race in 40k, but in Dark Heresy, one can roll a d100 to determine the skin colour of one's character.
A roll of 1-30 gives dark skin, a roll of 31-50 gives tanned skin, a roll of 51-70 gives fair skin, a roll of 71-90 gives ruddy skin and a roll of 91-100 gives something weird like bronze, stained, painted or very pale depending on the character's homeworld.
If we assume that the chances of getting a certain skin colour correspond to how common this skin colour is in the Imperium's population (and if we assume that skin colour = race in the Imperium, as it often is in our world), we could conclude that the racial makeup of the Imperium is as follows:
30% Black people (if we take 'black' to mean dark-skinned)
20% Brown people
20% White people
20% Red people (not sure what 'ruddy skin' is supposed to mean otherwise)
10% Other
Note that this does not include Voidborn populations whose skin colours range from porcelain to blueish.
Take it for what you think it is worth.

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well like I said with me when I paint a Cadian I roll a 6-sided die and these are the colors of my troops: (I let fate decide my troops skin color)

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Asterios wrote:
 Dakka Wolf wrote:
Asterios wrote:
 Dakka Wolf wrote:
 Grimgold wrote:
There was enough isolation and time just in the long night that there could have been speciation (and was, rattlings, ogryn, and squats are just a few examples). Wondering which pre-diaspora earth ethnicity one belonged to would be considered odd, kind of like wondering what tribe of Neandertals you descended from. Academically everyone knows holy terra is the birthplace of mankind, just like in the modern day everyone knows humans are originally from Africa. Despite knowing where my species originated I don't think of myself as African or belonging to one of the tribes/nationalities who once dwelled there.


Ancestory.com
Who do you think you are?
DNA Ancestory
There's enough people who ask the question and try to follow strains of their family tree back to something interesting that people can make a business from it.
One of my buddies is a vet, got his mongrel dog DNA tested to find out what breeds it was, and was given a list with percentages made me curious to find out what breeds my own dog might be, he was a rescue job of sorts, well trained but still unwanted - answers to "Mongrel".


well that just proves foolish people and their money are soon parted, me i'm an American mutt and thats all I need to know.


No kidding. As guys who spend hundreds of dollars, hours and space on little plastic figures totally aren't in glass houses when we judge other's money spending habits.
On a side note - you know a "mutt" by the dictionary is specifically an unknown canine or a stupid person right? Surely you mean a "mongrel"?


mutt, mongrel same thing to me, as to plastic men its an investment and hobby and relaxing, as to doing DNA checks on you or your dog, tell me will that DNA check change your life? will it make you love your animal more or less or look at it differently? will the DNA check on yourself change your status? or abruptly change your life for the better or worse? what will it do? does anybody but you care about it?

also noticed the pic of Muttley as your avatar


I never got the DNA test, it was $70 plut another $50 for the vet visit and my dog isn't sick, nor have I gotten one for myself, I sell the kits.


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As for Muttley, he's the avatar I was given in my first 40k slow grow for my Space Wolves.

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30% white, 30% black, 30% Asian, 30% middle eastern and 10% other



 
   
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I subscribe to the idea that almost everyone's white in 40k because everyone's English.

But beyond that, I feel like two basic lines of social logic should apply:

#1: People, when left alone together for thousands of years, tend to homogenize into a single race. It may happen slow, it may happen quick, but society would mostly head in that direction while I'm sure some people would stay within their race, but regardless of all that

#2: There are so many planets in the Imperium that there could actually be an infinite number of races under the Imperium, and on every planet's population looks distinct.

Having said all that, the bottom line is that this subject has never been touched upon, so there is no canon.


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usmcmidn wrote:
30% white, 30% black, 30% Asian, 30% middle eastern and 10% other


You left out the Indian, or do you just think they're ethnically the same as Chinese? And what about the indigenous peoples of America, South America, and Australia, hmm? You've failed your white knight exam.

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 Dakka Wolf wrote:
Asterios wrote:
 Dakka Wolf wrote:
Asterios wrote:
 Dakka Wolf wrote:
 Grimgold wrote:
There was enough isolation and time just in the long night that there could have been speciation (and was, rattlings, ogryn, and squats are just a few examples). Wondering which pre-diaspora earth ethnicity one belonged to would be considered odd, kind of like wondering what tribe of Neandertals you descended from. Academically everyone knows holy terra is the birthplace of mankind, just like in the modern day everyone knows humans are originally from Africa. Despite knowing where my species originated I don't think of myself as African or belonging to one of the tribes/nationalities who once dwelled there.


Ancestory.com
Who do you think you are?
DNA Ancestory
There's enough people who ask the question and try to follow strains of their family tree back to something interesting that people can make a business from it.
One of my buddies is a vet, got his mongrel dog DNA tested to find out what breeds it was, and was given a list with percentages made me curious to find out what breeds my own dog might be, he was a rescue job of sorts, well trained but still unwanted - answers to "Mongrel".


well that just proves foolish people and their money are soon parted, me i'm an American mutt and thats all I need to know.


No kidding. As guys who spend hundreds of dollars, hours and space on little plastic figures totally aren't in glass houses when we judge other's money spending habits.
On a side note - you know a "mutt" by the dictionary is specifically an unknown canine or a stupid person right? Surely you mean a "mongrel"?


mutt, mongrel same thing to me, as to plastic men its an investment and hobby and relaxing, as to doing DNA checks on you or your dog, tell me will that DNA check change your life? will it make you love your animal more or less or look at it differently? will the DNA check on yourself change your status? or abruptly change your life for the better or worse? what will it do? does anybody but you care about it?

also noticed the pic of Muttley as your avatar


I never got the DNA test, it was $70 plut another $50 for the vet visit and my dog isn't sick, nor have I gotten one for myself, I sell the kits.


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As for Muttley, he's the avatar I was given in my first 40k slow grow for my Space Wolves.


ahh so you find the foolish people then

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 Quarterdime wrote:
I subscribe to the idea that almost everyone's white in 40k because everyone's English.

But beyond that, I feel like two basic lines of social logic should apply:

#1: People, when left alone together for thousands of years, tend to homogenize into a single race. It may happen slow, it may happen quick, but society would mostly head in that direction while I'm sure some people would stay within their race, but regardless of all that

#2: There are so many planets in the Imperium that there could actually be an infinite number of races under the Imperium, and on every planet's population looks distinct.

Having said all that, the bottom line is that this subject has never been touched upon, so there is no canon.


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usmcmidn wrote:
30% white, 30% black, 30% Asian, 30% middle eastern and 10% other


You left out the Indian, or do you just think they're ethnically the same as Chinese? And what about the indigenous peoples of America, South America, and Australia, hmm? You've failed your white knight exam.


2. It has been touched on, once that I'm aware of. In the recent Ragnar Blackmane novel the Flesh tearers compare their own planet and cultures to those of the pair of Space Wolves who they've just turfed out to die on their homeworld of Cretacia - one thinks they'll die because their worlds are opposites and the Space Wolves aren't physically capable of surviving on theirs, one thinks they'll live because both those worlds are death worlds and the skill of surviving one world should give them at least some of the skills to survive the other.
Both are half right, one Wolf lives, the other gets killed by the native fauna.


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Asterios wrote:
 Dakka Wolf wrote:
Asterios wrote:
 Dakka Wolf wrote:
Asterios wrote:
 Dakka Wolf wrote:
 Grimgold wrote:
There was enough isolation and time just in the long night that there could have been speciation (and was, rattlings, ogryn, and squats are just a few examples). Wondering which pre-diaspora earth ethnicity one belonged to would be considered odd, kind of like wondering what tribe of Neandertals you descended from. Academically everyone knows holy terra is the birthplace of mankind, just like in the modern day everyone knows humans are originally from Africa. Despite knowing where my species originated I don't think of myself as African or belonging to one of the tribes/nationalities who once dwelled there.


Ancestory.com
Who do you think you are?
DNA Ancestory
There's enough people who ask the question and try to follow strains of their family tree back to something interesting that people can make a business from it.
One of my buddies is a vet, got his mongrel dog DNA tested to find out what breeds it was, and was given a list with percentages made me curious to find out what breeds my own dog might be, he was a rescue job of sorts, well trained but still unwanted - answers to "Mongrel".


well that just proves foolish people and their money are soon parted, me i'm an American mutt and thats all I need to know.


No kidding. As guys who spend hundreds of dollars, hours and space on little plastic figures totally aren't in glass houses when we judge other's money spending habits.
On a side note - you know a "mutt" by the dictionary is specifically an unknown canine or a stupid person right? Surely you mean a "mongrel"?


mutt, mongrel same thing to me, as to plastic men its an investment and hobby and relaxing, as to doing DNA checks on you or your dog, tell me will that DNA check change your life? will it make you love your animal more or less or look at it differently? will the DNA check on yourself change your status? or abruptly change your life for the better or worse? what will it do? does anybody but you care about it?

also noticed the pic of Muttley as your avatar


I never got the DNA test, it was $70 plut another $50 for the vet visit and my dog isn't sick, nor have I gotten one for myself, I sell the kits.


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As for Muttley, he's the avatar I was given in my first 40k slow grow for my Space Wolves.


ahh so you find the foolish people then


You got it and knowing the interesting points in my heritage helps me make the sales. Like I said though, I didn't use a DNA test, most sides of my family were readers and writers, I just followed the history trail back through the family trees and libraries to get the interesting stuff.
One learned mongrel.

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AZ

 Quarterdime wrote:
I subscribe to the idea that almost everyone's white in 40k because everyone's English.

But beyond that, I feel like two basic lines of social logic should apply:

#1: People, when left alone together for thousands of years, tend to homogenize into a single race. It may happen slow, it may happen quick, but society would mostly head in that direction while I'm sure some people would stay within their race, but regardless of all that

#2: There are so many planets in the Imperium that there could actually be an infinite number of races under the Imperium, and on every planet's population looks distinct.

Having said all that, the bottom line is that this subject has never been touched upon, so there is no canon.


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usmcmidn wrote:
30% white, 30% black, 30% Asian, 30% middle eastern and 10% other


You left out the Indian, or do you just think they're ethnically the same as Chinese? And what about the indigenous peoples of America, South America, and Australia, hmm? You've failed your white knight exam.


You're absolutely right we will add them 30% and 25% doesn't matter which, you can decide for us.



 
   
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if i remember correctly wasn't one of the distinctive racial traits of Cadians that they all had unusual bright violet eyes?

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And silver hair, that's not a three headed dragon on the Targarian heraldry, the Cadians are Alpha Legion's recruitment planet!!!

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Not sure if troll thread. Ah well, my standard policy is to post serious just in case.

1st: look at people 38.000 years ago. The diffrences are less then the differences between Imperial worlds but it gives you a rough idea.

2nd: Imagine your child moving to the other side of the world and meeting/marriyng a native. Their childrens childrens children will look diffrent from you.

3d: imagine same child moving to Mars on a Space station and then getting more children. Fast forward 38.000 years. What doyou imagine the mars dwellers that came from your childs ancestory look like?

4th: apply the same logic to the whole galaxy.

5th: finally add mutations and abhumans. What doyou think your 38.000 years into the future children will look like? That's the racial diversity.

for a short answer: more varied then we can imagine.

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 Nerak wrote:
Not sure if troll thread. Ah well, my standard policy is to post serious just in case.

1st: look at people 38.000 years ago. The diffrences are less then the differences between Imperial worlds but it gives you a rough idea.

2nd: Imagine your child moving to the other side of the world and meeting/marriyng a native. Their childrens childrens children will look diffrent from you.

3d: imagine same child moving to Mars on a Space station and then getting more children. Fast forward 38.000 years. What doyou imagine the mars dwellers that came from your childs ancestory look like?

4th: apply the same logic to the whole galaxy.

5th: finally add mutations and abhumans. What doyou think your 38.000 years into the future children will look like? That's the racial diversity.

for a short answer: more varied then we can imagine.


problem with that is then you have to add several other factors into the equation things from Gravity, to Radiation, Biologicals and so forth, take Mars, if we colonised mars then children born there would not be adapted for Earth's environment and gravity or temperature or such, say that child came to Earth from Mars, they would be weighted down and sweltering and may not have developed the same type of sweat glands we have, or our air or environment, and this is all within one or two generations even, the human body is designed to adapt to its immediate environment

Thinks Palladium books screwed the pooch on the Robotech project. 
   
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Asterios wrote:
 Nerak wrote:
Not sure if troll thread. Ah well, my standard policy is to post serious just in case.

1st: look at people 38.000 years ago. The diffrences are less then the differences between Imperial worlds but it gives you a rough idea.

2nd: Imagine your child moving to the other side of the world and meeting/marriyng a native. Their childrens childrens children will look diffrent from you.

3d: imagine same child moving to Mars on a Space station and then getting more children. Fast forward 38.000 years. What doyou imagine the mars dwellers that came from your childs ancestory look like?

4th: apply the same logic to the whole galaxy.

5th: finally add mutations and abhumans. What doyou think your 38.000 years into the future children will look like? That's the racial diversity.

for a short answer: more varied then we can imagine.


problem with that is then you have to add several other factors into the equation things from Gravity, to Radiation, Biologicals and so forth, take Mars, if we colonised mars then children born there would not be adapted for Earth's environment and gravity or temperature or such, say that child came to Earth from Mars, they would be weighted down and sweltering and may not have developed the same type of sweat glands we have, or our air or environment, and this is all within one or two generations even, the human body is designed to adapt to its immediate environment


My point exactly.

His pattern of returning alive after being declared dead occurred often enough during Cain's career that the Munitorum made a special ruling that Ciaphas Cain is to never be considered dead, despite evidence to the contrary. 
   
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well with me the Dice gods have spoken and made their racial choices on these 10 men:

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Although there are no numbers, we can conclude that GW is either profiling their own made-up universe, or that it is a fairly homogenous universe.
   
 
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