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ravenerioli wrote:
Firstly, as I've mentioned several times, you can't shoot mortars unless you can see them, and they shoot anything in 48" without needing to see what they're shooting, that's a very key point in this list. Artillery would do well to kill them off yes.

Well seeing them is easy in 8th ed. All you need is tiny slice of hat or mortar's gun or whatever through windows etc. Not many have big shoe boxes for LOS blocking. Hiding more than a few mortars out of LOS without having custom made terrain and set up it is pretty much impossibility.

Secondly, you can only make your conscripts immune to morale if you get first turn psychic off. The 'Death Star' I'm bringing is so small in size they probably wouldn't be able to be seen at any point the way I'd move them, especially if I can move them to a position where they won't cop overwatch because they can't be seen but where I'm close enough to still make the charge.

Those conscripts lose 1 guy extra and then pass morale. No need for psychics. Pietrov's MK 45 isn't psychic power.

As for not being seen...Only character status is any protection in 8th that you can actually rely on.

ravenerioli wrote:
Both of you comment your 2k list and I'll tell you how I'd play it with this list and we can decide from there

So I grasp this is going to be futile because you effectively have decided you have the best list and it is literally unbeatable but here's my current list.



I'd laugh your list off the table because I can block your early deepstrike and then move my army into position to prevent you from deepstriking anywhere outside your deployment zone. Every model I have has an effective save against plasma.

What I'd like to see is a list that could beat it that could still hold its own against the best lists of other armies. Not a list tailored to smash this list but a list that could beat this list and still be competitive against most other armies


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It's a good chaos list and I'm not here to say this list is fool proof just want some feedback to adjust it because I want to make my best Scions heavy list. This list is good and I think it would be one of the most fun games to play imo

I play that bottom floors of ruins always block line of sight and I have a lot of custom terrain, solid buildings, large rock formations that are impassable and big enough to hide a knight

So my list vs your list what become a test of playing skill to counter each other's deepstrikes and anticipate the others player's plan. It would take 10 hours with all the thinking but it would be an insane fight imo and pretty cinematic