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I feel like that this movie is going to rely on the Micheal Bay disasters a little too much.
Bender wrote:* Realise that despite the way people talk, this is not a professional sport played by demi gods, but rather a game of toy soldiers played by tired, inebriated human beings.
Frazzled wrote: The bits in this look better, I will say. A problem I had with the series was that, in a theater I could not tell what was what-too many spinning bits. The bots look simpler and clearer in this.
This was also one of my biggest problems with the movies. I went to see the first one in the theater, and thought it was OK, but not great.
I saw the second one on the theater and it was one of the few movies I've ever left halfway though, at the point Optimus Prime is fighting 2 giant whirling, banging pieces of CGI garbage to a soundtrack of ear-splitting noise. It was impossible to tell what the hell was going on.
So yeah one of the first things I noticed is that the Bumblebee design is a lot cleaner. Having only seen Starscream for half a second it's hard to know if that aesthetic is universal towards the other transformers in this movie, assuming there are more than 2.
This movie is still a super uphill sell for me, though - I haven't bothered to watch any of the other movies other than little snippets here and there, and Bumblee himself would do little to change that. Give us the Starscream movie we deserve!
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Flinty wrote: The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
Frazzled wrote: The bits in this look better, I will say. A problem I had with the series was that, in a theater I could not tell what was what-too many spinning bits. The bots look simpler and clearer in this.
This was also one of my biggest problems with the movies. I went to see the first one in the theater, and thought it was OK, but not great.
I saw the second one on the theater and it was one of the few movies I've ever left halfway though, at the point Optimus Prime is fighting 2 giant whirling, banging pieces of CGI garbage to a soundtrack of ear-splitting noise. It was impossible to tell what the hell was going on.
So yeah one of the first things I noticed is that the Bumblebee design is a lot cleaner. Having only seen Starscream for half a second it's hard to know if that aesthetic is universal towards the other transformers in this movie, assuming there are more than 2.
This movie is still a super uphill sell for me, though - I haven't bothered to watch any of the other movies other than little snippets here and there, and Bumblee himself would do little to change that. Give us the Starscream movie we deserve!
They have to have more than two transformers. What's the point of casting Starscream if there is no-one for him to betray?
I'm one of the 80's/90's kids who pretty much hated the Bay Transformer travesties (with the first film being the only one I could stomach). If you tell me Bay is not involved with this, then I may well take my 11 year old nephew to see it. I love the old school vibe, and for anyone mentioning Starscream - it's not super accurate, but cool nonetheless.
The original cartoon Starscream was more F-15, and in this trailer it's clearly an F4 Phantom - which is pretty badass since my dad an F4 RIO in the Navy.
Lance845 wrote: Probably. I am still hoping it's not the same continuity. I will probably be disappointed. But a reboot is coming one way or the other.
The 2019 Transformers 6 has been quietly cancelled. They could be waiting to see the resulting success (or lack of) before deciding on using this as a reboot. They can make vague references to Megatron/Decepticons being on Earth for 'reasons' while making this it's own movie, and if they go the reboot direction, just come up with new 'reasons'.
-Loki- wrote: The 2019 Transformers 6 has been quietly cancelled. They could be waiting to see the resulting success (or lack of) before deciding on using this as a reboot.
I wonder why it was cancelled. These movies are obviously pure garbage, but they kept getting made because they're still very profitable: $215 million production budget and lets assume $100 million in marketing for a movie that pulled in $606 million worldwide? As long as you have a director with no shame and a Chinese moviegoing audience happy with senseless spectacle, why not churn one out every year forever?
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Flinty wrote: The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
-Loki- wrote: The 2019 Transformers 6 has been quietly cancelled. They could be waiting to see the resulting success (or lack of) before deciding on using this as a reboot.
I wonder why it was cancelled. These movies are obviously pure garbage, but they kept getting made because they're still very profitable: $215 million production budget and lets assume $100 million in marketing for a movie that pulled in $606 million worldwide? As long as you have a director with no shame and a Chinese moviegoing audience happy with senseless spectacle, why not churn one out every year forever?
Because Marvel movies with a similar budget can make 2-400 million more simply by being good movies.
With Bay stepping away (THANK GOD) and that whole story line being saddled with plot holes and inconsistencies and eating into all the artifacts and major players there really isn't anywhere for it to go. They did Unicron. They did Galvatron. They did Devestator. Space Bridges, Cyberforming, Lockdown, Dinorbots, Shockwave, Soundwave, Starscream.
Just about every major player was dead or ruined.
What the hell could you possibly gain by moving forward instead of rebooting?
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
Lance845 wrote: Because Marvel movies with a similar budget can make 2-400 million more simply by being good movies.
Sure. But Paramount doesn't have the option of churning out Avengers 5. As Donald Rumsfeld once said, you don't go to war with Spider-Man you want, you go to war with the Dinobots you have.
They have GI Joe, TMNT, Star Trek and Transformers. The last GI Joe and the last TMNT movie combined pulled in about what that last awful Transformers movie made.
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lord_blackfang wrote: Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote: The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
To be fair, transformers movies have been like churning out avengers. They are all to one extent or another team movies. Except this bumble bee.
Transformers could use some more thor ragnarok or winter soldier like stories that focus on a character with some others mixed in logically. Build the characters more instead of following screamong idiot shia labuff around for 7 hours.
Get the focus away from human supporting characters and onto the transformers themselves. Also building a cohesive narrative that actually builds towards something instead of 5 movies that are all the same movie about needing to get a thing so they run around like idiots for 2 hours because someone found that thing. Until finally they get that thing.
Introduce energon. Make it a resource war. Show some of the actual war/fall on cybertron. Introduce the first 13 in a way that isnt slowed and then build towards the fallen in away that doesnt make him some kind of crab faced idiot and lead that towards unicron.
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