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Well, to be fair, LOA/Tamurkhan rules are pretty much an expansion/twist on the old 4th rules. Some stuff gets renamed, but all the old options are there, plus more.

Weird. I seem to remember a lot of complaints from old school Chorf fans when the army list came out about how Legion of Azgorh wasn't "real" chaos dwarves and how GW ruined the faction. I assumed there were probably big changes that occurred.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Weird. I seem to remember a lot of complaints from old school Chorf fans when the army list came out about how Legion of Azgorh wasn't "real" chaos dwarves and how GW ruined the faction. I assumed there were probably big changes that occurred.

The models very very different but the rules were broadly similar other than the size increase for Bull Centaurs and the new units like the trains and bound daemons.

I had no issue using my Chaos Dwarf army I built up under the Ravening Hordes rules with the LoA rules without buying anything new.

Tbh though the ideal would be an approach like CA have done for TWW, where you get *both* the old stuff and the new as slightly different units. They use the 8th Ed versions of the warmachines, but otherwise the only thing missing from either edition is the hobgoblin bolt thrower.

Yeah, the big divide in the Chorf community was between big hats and masks on the models. It's mostly a in-joke now, but it was pretty heated, from what I hear.

If it is successful locally, I'll get into it. Probably one of the evil armies.

What are the easiest armies to paint?

SU-152 wrote:

What are the easiest armies to paint?

Tomb Kings as they're mostly skeletons. Wraithbone spray for undercoat and base paint, Agrax Earthshade wash, and a nice dry brush of ushabti bone will do most of the work.

It will look pretty nice and all you need is to pick a colour for the shields and add gold to the trim, do the weapons black for the handles and silver for the blades.

I'll be starting a Bretonnian army, always wanted one since fifth edition, but I was a 40k player and in my early teens with very little money to spare. I've loved the idea of mostly non-magical, normal dudes fighting monsters and the like, it's very heroic.

The Empire, I will need to construct new movement trays thought. I do not plan to re-base my entire army and still want to be able to play older editions.

Not buying into The Old World itself, but I'm looking forward to a box or two of Bretonnian Knights for games of Full Tilt.

 Bonegrinder wrote:

SU-152 wrote:

What are the easiest armies to paint?

Tomb Kings as they're mostly skeletons. Wraithbone spray for undercoat and base paint, Agrax Earthshade wash, and a nice dry brush of ushabti bone will do most of the work.

It will look pretty nice and all you need is to pick a colour for the shields and add gold to the trim, do the weapons black for the handles and silver for the blades.

Wow thanks, those are good tips!!!

I'm sorting through my armies trying to figure out what I already have. I have plainly forgotten some things. My Empire collection is... generational. A few Reiksguard foot, including some of the Marauder Miniatures sculpts (before they were incorporated by Citadel/GW).
Even have some really terrible and small halberdiers with shields (including stickers) from a pretty terrible playing mat game that GW put out with some toy company or other.

Though it dead ends before stuff like Demigryphs and some of the reworks of the plastics. The metal crossbowmen with almost completely undetailed plastic crossbows amuse me the most, though.

I have a lot of core troops, but not a lot of weird stuff.

Tomb Kings will be interesting to sort through. I know I have two heavily pinned catapults, at least two tomb scorpions, a bone giant and some ushabti. But no snake surfers or necrosphinx.

The whole change to base sizes puts me off of using any of my existing armies as rebasing scares me of breaking fully painted models and movement trays with weird spacers just makes me want to do kings of war multibases instead.

I do have dwarf / empire armies that never got past the buying models phase, so I could buy a pack of larger bases and start on them. But I'll wait for their books to come out and see what models get a rerelease etc.

Given the time this is set in I was expecting a focus on the empire, so maybe they will get some nice new minis that will give me the bug, but so far I'm happy to wait and see how the game pans out.

I'm kind of excited to try my Empire army out. Though first thing I'll do is play some solo games between my old metal dwarf army and my orc & goblin army.

I'd never rebase a model because a game company wants me to, and as some others have pointed out it won't make a big difference in this game (and it's difference is a vastly overstate meme for past games). But it's easy enough to just cut movement trays to whatever size you want and put your models on it. I buy 28"x44" sheets of thick card from Blick, you can cut out a lot of trays from just one $3 sheet, give them a quick spray of green paint and you're good to go.

I'm going to play a real duckhead list at first.

2k dwarfs,
King, engineers.
20 thunderers, longbeards, warriors.
6 cannons
15 hammerers.
1 gyrocopter.

None of it moves except the gyrocopter. Come get me.

After that probably WoC and try to rebase some stuff.

Watching some of the videos around to figure out what units and characters made the transition in various army lists.

Did not expect Empire wizards to get access to everything: dark, necromancy and daemonology as well as battle, illusion and elementalism.

That's oddly appealing, especially given some of the old models I've dug up. I've got some weird old metal chaos sorcerers that are a lot more interesting than the standard 'holding a staff and sword' college wizards.

Not sure if I will get into this game, but if I do, a Nurgle-marked Chaos Warriors army could be fun, possibly made to look like the Rotblood Marauders from Vermintide 2.

I'm going for Bretonnia. Having watched the GMG review for the faction I'm interested in doing both the Exiles and Crusaders themes.

I've had most of the parts of an Empire Mortar sitting in my bitz box for a while and with some other spare parts I've made it serviceable as the Border Prince Bombard. I'll throw in some of the mercenary types as well for an interesting side project.

Overall, even though thus far my group isn't interested, I'm really looking forward to this as a project.

I got a poorly assembled, overpriced high elf army on ebay, but at least it was mostly unpainted and the seller was kind enough to include the sprues that still had parts on them.

It seems to be mostly assembled with superglue so I'll be trying to redo the most egregious offenders, but I don't have the highest hopes for these spearmen.

Edit: Disassembly went mostly smoothly. These things were completely covered in superglue so some pieces didn't come apart quite as well as I would have liked, and there is plenty to clean up before reassembly.

Tomb Kings baby!

We are back!

Definitely thinking Bretonnian Errantry Crusade army! Leaning hard into the all-cavalry list. At 2k, I'm squeezing in about ~56 mounted models, based on prelim list tinkering.

Not sure if it'll be any good, but damn will it be thematic and a fun army to paint!

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
Not sure if I will get into this game, but if I do, a Nurgle-marked Chaos Warriors army could be fun, possibly made to look like the Rotblood Marauders from Vermintide 2.

That would be amazing. I have my 8th ed WFB nurgle Warriors of Chaos, but unfortunately I put most of them on round / oval bases for AOS.

So I'm thinking of doing WoC again with the re-launch of Old World, but I will focus on Slaanesh for a true painting project.

Meh. Given the starter set I suspect my army list isn't going to be valid either because of the rules or because of the meta.

I used to run Brets, some archers, some M@A, a Grail Reliquae, a couple units of Knights Realm/Errant, a small unit of questiing knights, some Pegasus Knights, and a block of Grail - but realistically the army was about Hammer and Anvil with the Grail Reliquae and a Deathstart of Grail Knights - Grail Knights, full command, The Lord on Warhorse, a Damsel, and the BSB Paladin, war banner, banner of defense. It was fairly layered on defense vs shooting and magic, with the mobility for the flank+ charge...

Breton wrote:
Meh. Given the starter set I suspect my army list isn't going to be valid either because of the rules or because of the meta.

I used to run Brets, some archers, some M@A, a Grail Reliquae, a couple units of Knights Realm/Errant, a small unit of questiing knights, some Pegasus Knights, and a block of Grail - but realistically the army was about Hammer and Anvil with the Grail Reliquae and a Deathstart of Grail Knights - Grail Knights, full command, The Lord on Warhorse, a Damsel, and the BSB Paladin, war banner, banner of defense. It was fairly layered on defense vs shooting and magic, with the mobility for the flank+ charge...

I do not see why it should not be valid or powerful...

You have the compulsoty units. Plenty of % in characters. Grail knights up to 25% of the army.

And it does not seem weak...

SU-152 wrote:

Breton wrote:
Meh. Given the starter set I suspect my army list isn't going to be valid either because of the rules or because of the meta.

I used to run Brets, some archers, some M@A, a Grail Reliquae, a couple units of Knights Realm/Errant, a small unit of questiing knights, some Pegasus Knights, and a block of Grail - but realistically the army was about Hammer and Anvil with the Grail Reliquae and a Deathstart of Grail Knights - Grail Knights, full command, The Lord on Warhorse, a Damsel, and the BSB Paladin, war banner, banner of defense. It was fairly layered on defense vs shooting and magic, with the mobility for the flank+ charge...

I do not see why it should not be valid or powerful...

You have the compulsoty units. Plenty of % in characters. Grail knights up to 25% of the army.

And it does not seem weak...

It looks like they're building the theme around the winged horses. I haven't seen any of the rules etc yet, but it just looks like they're pushing away from the Death Star units into the Lone Hero thing.

Edit to Add: I haven't even seen a kit yet for a mounted (on warhorse) lord, or a Mounted Damsel.

Breton wrote:

SU-152 wrote:

Breton wrote:
Meh. Given the starter set I suspect my army list isn't going to be valid either because of the rules or because of the meta.

I used to run Brets, some archers, some M@A, a Grail Reliquae, a couple units of Knights Realm/Errant, a small unit of questiing knights, some Pegasus Knights, and a block of Grail - but realistically the army was about Hammer and Anvil with the Grail Reliquae and a Deathstart of Grail Knights - Grail Knights, full command, The Lord on Warhorse, a Damsel, and the BSB Paladin, war banner, banner of defense. It was fairly layered on defense vs shooting and magic, with the mobility for the flank+ charge...

I do not see why it should not be valid or powerful...

You have the compulsoty units. Plenty of % in characters. Grail knights up to 25% of the army.

And it does not seem weak...

It looks like they're building the theme around the winged horses. I haven't seen any of the rules etc yet, but it just looks like they're pushing away from the Death Star units into the Lone Hero thing.

Edit to Add: I haven't even seen a kit yet for a mounted (on warhorse) lord, or a Mounted Damsel.

I've seen the rules in various places and been list building and I have yet to add Pegs to a list. Also, no Lone Heroes either. They sit nicely in units for Brets, from what I am seeing.

You list sounds like a well-rounded all-comer style list and I'm pretty sure it's entirely legal too.

I think the mounted damsel is meant to use the Elaine de Douchard kit or whatever her name is

I'll be going for a proper mish-mash Tomb Kings army, but built to mostly be a display army that I hope to form some sort of cohesive army out of. My general will be riding a Warsphinx because I'm not a huge fan of crocodragon (TK didn't need a dragon), and because I decided his title was "Lion of the Desert" so a cat mount seemed apt.

I want to get some of those high elf lions from that chariot and Tomb Kingify them to be his pets (painted to look appropriately like animated statues), but I have no idea what to run them as outside of just doing a lion chariot.

I'm also planning on turning crocodragon into just croco by omitting the wings, shortening the neck, and leaving the palanquin off of its back. But again I'm not sure what it would be used as in a game.

Crocodtagon could probably be used as a necrosphinx

Croc's base is 3 times the size tho, isn't it?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Croc's base is 3 times the size tho, isn't it?

It's massive compared to the necrospinx base. If I can't somehow squeeze it on there, I'll try to get it vertical and use it as a Colossus or something.

I've been frantically rebasing my Empire army. Being among the lucky few whose orders shipped before the snowstorm closed Memphis, I got my books today (along with the bases for my cavalry). I give you my 2k list:



Characters:

Grandmaster on barded warhorse, full plate, shield, sword of might
BSB in full plate, NO shield, ruby ring, Imperial Banner
Ulrican priest with greataxe (because WYSIWYG)
L1 Wizard (Daemonology)
Engineer

Ouch, these guys are expensive, and it's hard to resist sexy toys. Originally had a L3 Daemonologist because the lore has 3 spells that would help the greatswords...but then I noticed the rampaging banner. Sorry, rerolling charges is a must. I didn't want to drop the priest because he adds D3" to that charge... and everything depends on them getting the charge. So a L1 gets a 3/6 chance of getting ONE of the 3 good spells, and the signature is a decent magic missile. If the wizard gets what I want, he goes with the greatswords. If not, he just goes in the swordsmen and shoots. Then...40 points left over, that almost pays for an engineer so the great cannons don't misfire. dropping the BSB's shield gets me over the top!

Core:

40 Swordsmen with FC
20 Crossbows
20 Handguns

Special:

Great Cannon
Great Cannon
28 Greatswords with FC and Rampaging Banner
10 Inner Circle knights with lances, preceptor, and banner.

No Rares. All of it is rebased except the cavalry. Left out are 40 swordsmen, 2x20 halberdiers, 10 crossbows, 10 handguns, 5 pistoliers, 2 mortars, and more characters, so I could go 3k without stretching, but I'll be in no hurry to rebase the mortars, pistoliers, and halberdiers, nor to repaint the remaining 20 in that unused block of swordsmen (who are also not rebased, although the bases are done, so I could field 20 now)




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 That1Dud3 wrote:
Tomb Kings baby!

We are back!

Yeah...but with 40% of the armies out there being TK on day one, I'll rebase those after I'm done rebasing my Empire army.