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 Haighus wrote:

 reds8n wrote:
https://www.businessinsider.com/young-blood-transfusions-open-accepting-paypal-payments-cities-ambrosia-2019-1?r=US&IR=T

A controversial startup that charges $8,000 to fill your veins with young blood now claims to be up and running in 5 cities across the US

good news is they take paypal.

And in ~120 days, you are back where you started!

8 grand well spent...?

Meanwhile, medical staff try to avoid transfusing blood products as much as possible due to the risks of doing so...

8 grand every 4 months? Nothing like repeat customers!

 Haighus wrote:

 reds8n wrote:
https://www.businessinsider.com/young-blood-transfusions-open-accepting-paypal-payments-cities-ambrosia-2019-1?r=US&IR=T

A controversial startup that charges $8,000 to fill your veins with young blood now claims to be up and running in 5 cities across the US

good news is they take paypal.

And in ~120 days, you are back where you started!

8 grand well spent...?

Meanwhile, medical staff try to avoid transfusing blood products as much as possible due to the risks of doing so...

I've no interest in purchasing, but are they buying?

Haha there's no way that people could fall for that? There's no way having younger blood put in you will have any effect at all, except on your bank account...

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Haha there's no way that people could fall for that? There's no way having younger blood put in you will have any effect at all, except on your bank account...

You are saying this in a world where there are people who believe the Earth is flat.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Haha there's no way that people could fall for that? There's no way having younger blood put in you will have any effect at all, except on your bank account...

There probably are ways it could help, but transfusions are short-lived, for a variety of reasons.

The average lifespan of a red blood cell, for example, is 120 days. So after 4 months, the vast majority of the red cells in your transfused blood have broken down and been recycled into your own typical red blood cells. This is assuming they have a normal lifespan too- whilst the blood will be RBO and probably rhesus type matched, there are a bunch of minor antigens that will have varying degrees of matching. I would be surprised if transfused red cells had an average lifespan of 120 days.

Sure, red cells from a young person are probably more effective, but a transfusion is short lived, and this therapy does nothing to affect the endogenous production. It is just going to be a temporary boost at best.

There are far more components to complete blood than just red cells, but none of them are likely to last very long in another person's body.

Then of course there are the significant risks of blood transfusions. Despite the article describing them as safe, transfusions are anything but. They are undoubtedly a very useful tool for treating anaemia and other blood deficiencies, but the adverse effects can and do kill people. Many of those cannot easily be predicted, like anaphylaxis reactions.

Aye. There are benefits to transfusions. They’ve actually been used by athletes to give themselves more stamina, though they tend to use their own blood.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Aye. There are benefits to transfusions. They’ve actually been used by athletes to give themselves more stamina, though they tend to use their own blood.

Different concept there though- the idea with that is simply to boost the number of circulating red cells to above what your body will produce naturally. If you have, say, 50% more red cells floating around, that is 50% greater oxygen carrying capacity.

Of course, it also makes their blood thicker and can kill them, which is why the body has an upper limit in the first place. It is also a short-lived boost- athletes did it just prior to a major event.

The idea above seems to be something different- using young blood because the blood components are in better condition with less age degredation. I can't see how this is going to give anything better than a short term benefit at best, and just cause unnecessary risks at worst.

 Haighus wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Aye. There are benefits to transfusions. They’ve actually been used by athletes to give themselves more stamina, though they tend to use their own blood.

Different concept there though- the idea with that is simply to boost the number of circulating red cells to above what your body will produce naturally. If you have, say, 50% more red cells floating around, that is 50% greater oxygen carrying capacity.

Of course, it also makes their blood thicker and can kill them, which is why the body has an upper limit in the first place. It is also a short-lived boost- athletes did it just prior to a major event.

The idea above seems to be something different- using young blood because the blood components are in better condition with less age degredation. I can't see how this is going to give anything better than a short term benefit at best, and just cause unnecessary risks at worst.

Not to mention that the "young" blood enters a cycle that allready could have various detracting elements to it.
(liver that dosen't work at Peak condition anymore, etc.)

Not to mention the risk of various diseases.
And on top of that 8000$?!?.....

Let’s say I’m 90, have more money than brains, and think this could *maybe* give me a sense of restored vitality.

I’d do it. Hell, if I live to 87 and my wife has predecessed me I already told her I was planning to go somewhere that hookers and blow are readily available and rinse and repeat until I am also deceased. If I could afford it, maybe I’d top up on fresh blood and maybe rent a liver while I’m at it.

50 years from now, there will be an Uber for body parts. I’m not using this kidney... wanna take it for a spin for the weekend? Just $1000!

People were doing this in Victorian times with "monkey gland" extract.

There's a Sherlock Holmes story about it.

 Iron_Captain wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Haha there's no way that people could fall for that? There's no way having younger blood put in you will have any effect at all, except on your bank account...

You are saying this in a world where there are people who believe the Earth is flat.

true. and anti vaxxers.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
People were doing this in Victorian times with "monkey gland" extract.

There's a Sherlock Holmes story about it.

The Adventure of the Creeping Man.

I wonder if these are going to become the first real life servitors? That certainly sounds like how you get servitors.

.. slight change of pace here/now.

Somewhat randomly the Chernobyl disaster came up in conversation and one was reminded of " The Elephants Foot" ,


which s, basically, a big ol' pile of radioactive nastiness that will kill you if you get near it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elephant%27s_Foot


.....

The large mass of black corium has many layers, externally resembling tree bark and glass. The mass is quite dense, unyielding to a drill but able to be damaged by a Kalashnikov rifle. By June 1998, the outer layers began to turn to dust and the entire mass was starting to crack. The mass has penetrated through at least 2 m (6 ft 7 in) of concrete.[1]

unyielding to a drill but able to be damaged by a Kalashnikov rifle.

how...why ..? did we find this out then eh ?

Well, one could shoot it from a safe distance, but who had the, now radioactive, balls to take a drill bit to it?

I mean the kalaskhnikow check makes sense, since slav, but the drill i personally find more insane.

... one day they'll do this over our corpses.

 reds8n wrote:
.. slight change of pace here/now.

Somewhat randomly the Chernobyl disaster came up in conversation and one was reminded of " The Elephants Foot" ,


which s, basically, a big ol' pile of radioactive nastiness that will kill you if you get near it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elephant%27s_Foot


.....

The large mass of black corium has many layers, externally resembling tree bark and glass. The mass is quite dense, unyielding to a drill but able to be damaged by a Kalashnikov rifle. By June 1998, the outer layers began to turn to dust and the entire mass was starting to crack. The mass has penetrated through at least 2 m (6 ft 7 in) of concrete.[1]

unyielding to a drill but able to be damaged by a Kalashnikov rifle.

how...why ..? did we find this out then eh ?

Well it's in the Ukraine so I'd imagine some crazy boris went in and took a potshot at it.

Have you seen the video of it? It's incredible.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

 reds8n wrote:
.. slight change of pace here/now.

Somewhat randomly the Chernobyl disaster came up in conversation and one was reminded of " The Elephants Foot" ,


which s, basically, a big ol' pile of radioactive nastiness that will kill you if you get near it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elephant%27s_Foot


.....

The large mass of black corium has many layers, externally resembling tree bark and glass. The mass is quite dense, unyielding to a drill but able to be damaged by a Kalashnikov rifle. By June 1998, the outer layers began to turn to dust and the entire mass was starting to crack. The mass has penetrated through at least 2 m (6 ft 7 in) of concrete.[1]

unyielding to a drill but able to be damaged by a Kalashnikov rifle.

how...why ..? did we find this out then eh ?

Well it's in the Ukraine so I'd imagine some crazy boris went in and took a potshot at it.

Have you seen the video of it? It's incredible.

1. Thats.. disturbing.
2. looking at the pics, you just know everyone involved in the pictures is very very dead.
3. Dad died from a rare form of cancer. Dad also was one of a group of guys that helped find a live nuke when he was in the service and worked on aircraft that carried them. Makes me sad.

It's crazy scary. If you get chance, watch the documentary our guy in Russia. Don't mind the slightly eccentric lancastrian. Part 4, he's in Ukraine and visits the site and it shows loads of footage. It's interesting. I always wanted to go and visit that and the woodpecker radar which is nearby but when it kicked off in 2014 I decided against it for now.

Was that b52s in the states? We had the V bombers over here.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
It's crazy scary. If you get chance, watch the documentary our guy in Russia. Don't mind the slightly eccentric lancastrian. Part 4, he's in Ukraine and visits the site and it shows loads of footage. It's interesting. I always wanted to go and visit that and the woodpecker radar which is nearby but when it kicked off in 2014 I decided against it for now.

Was that b52s in the states? We had the V bombers over here.

B36s. Later a little with the then brand new B52s.

I will see if I can look that up. The guys who buried it in concrete were some brave muthas.

 Frazzled wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
It's crazy scary. If you get chance, watch the documentary our guy in Russia. Don't mind the slightly eccentric lancastrian. Part 4, he's in Ukraine and visits the site and it shows loads of footage. It's interesting. I always wanted to go and visit that and the woodpecker radar which is nearby but when it kicked off in 2014 I decided against it for now.

Was that b52s in the states? We had the V bombers over here.

B36s. Later a little with the then brand new B52s.

I will see if I can look that up. The guys who buried it in concrete were some brave muthas.

Yeah man. It goes into all that. The firefighters and military.. Shows you the irradiated hind helis that flew over it and had to be left and all that.

soon

But when will we have mice that I can talk too?

 LordofHats wrote:
But when will we have mice that I can talk too?

But mice are going to be quite boring conversationalists. They'll just be talking about cheese and what various parts of your house they've chewed and pissed on lately.

 LordofHats wrote:
But when will we have mice that I can talk too?

Or do you mean the small furry kind of mouse?

I mean, technically you can talk to them now, just don't expect to understand their responses

https://twitter.com/g_awd/status/1112473455650172929



seems kinda ominous no ?

 reds8n wrote:
https://twitter.com/g_awd/status/1112473455650172929



seems kinda ominous no ?

Looks like a scene from Monsters vs. Aliens.

Ha! That looks very dystopian. The "smiling death" kind that looks so happy and convenient on the surface...

 reds8n wrote:
seems kinda ominous no ?

Maybe if it wasn't fake...