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Absolutely dreading the battle to try and get the LE Saturday.

Bummer about the length of time until the paperback version comes out for this one too!

And the website goes down at 11:00, and at 11:01 the LE book is sold out... GG GW, GG. And ofc ebay is full of listings..

What a load of bobbins. They know these things sell quickly so I'm (not) surprised that they didn't queue the website like they do with other non-book preorders.

Edit: and OF COURSE Ebay is already full of flippers selling it for 4x the price.

Well that was an incredibly stressful 5 minutes.

I was lucky enough to get one in my basket before the website crashed at the payment screen.

Refresh to see it's still showing in my basket.

Go to payment to be told my basket is empty!!!

It was right there!!!!

GW really need to sort this out. There are dozens of copies already on eBay.

StraightSilver wrote:
Well that was an incredibly stressful 5 minutes.

I was lucky enough to get one in my basket before the website crashed at the payment screen.

Refresh to see it's still showing in my basket.

Go to payment to be told my basket is empty!!!

It was right there!!!!

GW really need to sort this out. There are dozens of copies already on eBay.

There were dozens of copies on eBay before they were even up on the site!

That's even more annoying. :(

There's more than a few ebay stores willing to list things they don't have to get early buy slots and then either refund/cancel if they don't get enough stock.

 Overread wrote:
There's more than a few ebay stores willing to list things they don't have to get early buy slots and then either refund/cancel if they don't get enough stock.

This happened me. I bought a book I had missed out on only to discover the ‘seller’ didnt even have the book. Unbelievably when I left him a bad review he complained that his ‘supplier’ which would be Black Library had let him down. Lesson learned now if I dont get it off GW I just don’t get it. Dealing with one seller who obviously can’t stand the fans is bad enough without going hunting through eBay for another one.

Out of stock at 12:58 EST. Goes on sale at 13:00. Sounds about right.

It actually went up for sale early. I had one and alli had to do was click complete order but noticed I had an expired card selected. Spent 10 seconds to change it and it was gone. This was all *before* the official release time

This is actually pretty unacceptable for them to have this happen.

I really like the Black Library limited editions. I’ve got a nice little row of them on my shelf and they look beautiful. The speed with which they sell out and the scalping is just terrible though.

I’m fairly convinced that most people who buy them, like me, buy them to look good on a shelf. It always feels like the artificial scarcity is limited by how many copies they can reasonably ask the author to sign. I’d be just as happy to buy them if they weren’t signed. They could probably then print ten times the numbers, still sell them and they’ve have ten times as many satisfied customers.

Quasistellar wrote:
It actually went up for sale early. I had one and alli had to do was click complete order but noticed I had an expired card selected. Spent 10 seconds to change it and it was gone. This was all *before* the official release time

This is actually pretty unacceptable for them to have this happen.

I never saw it on the site until after the site crashed, then it came back and it was sold out. Normally it indeed goes on a few minutes before the hour, but for me it never showed up (and yes I was force refreshing). Very frustrating as I already have every other book in the series..

I should be jumping on when all these limited editions come out.
I don’t want them myself but an extra chance for someone to get a copy instead of a scalper is well worth the time trying.


Side question regarding The Lost And The Damned.

Danny76 wrote:
I should be jumping on when all these limited editions come out.
I don’t want them myself but an extra chance for someone to get a copy instead of a scalper is well worth the time trying.


Side question regarding The Lost And The Damned.

Spoiler:

So near the start. Malcador says one of the Primarchs knew about the warp all along, the only one who was able to know and not be corrupted by it.
Who are we talking about here? He won’t tell Khan, Sanguinius and Dorn the name.

Side note. When he says we all have our parts to play. I’ll do mine, and I know you’ll all do yours, looking at Sanguinius, who looks solemn. Nice moment. As both know what’s coming for them.

I think that was intended to just be bait for fan speculation tbh. If I had to guess I'd say the Lion. He was the first made and seems to reject chaos out of hand. The gods just don't have anything he wants.

Surprised that the regular hardbacks of Echoes of Eternity have not sold out yet, those also tend to go fast whenever they go up for preorder.

Outgunned was a fun read by the way, bit on the nose as always with naming conventions, but fun nonetheless.

 BrookM wrote:

Outgunned was a fun read by the way, bit on the nose as always with naming conventions, but fun nonetheless.

It was nice to see the story from a perspective of an Imperial propagandist comparing his lived experience with what his job expects from him.

 BrookM wrote:
Surprised that the regular hardbacks of Echoes of Eternity have not sold out yet, those also tend to go fast whenever they go up for preorder.
.

Maybe on the GW store but they stay widely available for a while. Warhawk hardback is still available on Amazon for retail price.

Even the final book isn't the final book.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/31/the-beginning-of-the-end-is-nigh-the-final-siege-of-terra-story-is-revealed/

Chikout wrote:
Even the final book isn't the final book.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/31/the-beginning-of-the-end-is-nigh-the-final-siege-of-terra-story-is-revealed/

Is that artwork the canonical size of the Emperor? He's the size of a small Titan?

Chikout wrote:
Even the final book isn't the final book.

That's because it was never going to be the final book.

It's the final story...in 50 volumes...with sideways quest novellas...and minor quest pamphlets...

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Even the final book isn't the final book.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/31/the-beginning-of-the-end-is-nigh-the-final-siege-of-terra-story-is-revealed/

Is that artwork the canonical size of the Emperor? He's the size of a small Titan?

I think canonically, the Emperor can appear however he wants.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Even the final book isn't the final book.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/31/the-beginning-of-the-end-is-nigh-the-final-siege-of-terra-story-is-revealed/

Is that artwork the canonical size of the Emperor? He's the size of a small Titan?

Isn't his whole public appearance a glamour of some kind? Sure there was a recent book where a silent sister or similar character was able to see the 'real' emperor and he was just a normal dude.

I mean, Abnett has definitely said before that his personal cannon is that it's probably just an entire room of radioactive gubbins and any suggestion there's a throne at all is probably all psychic projection, so I'm not surprised they think he looks any size he wants.

And there have been multiple suggestions from the books that the Emperor is much smaller than usually depicted and it's all just a psychic bluff.

Anyway, it had been rumoured for a while that the last book had to be split, and I was kind of surprised that it wasn't announced that way at the time. They're going to want to do at least a one or two big twists to what we know, so a single volume to wrap everything up always felt like a stretch at this point.

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Even the final book isn't the final book.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/31/the-beginning-of-the-end-is-nigh-the-final-siege-of-terra-story-is-revealed/

Is that artwork the canonical size of the Emperor? He's the size of a small Titan?

I think canonically, the Emperor can appear however he wants.

The problem with that is he's sitting on an object of fixed size, though.

The End and the Death? Who is naming these books?

Interesting that they used the word 'Volume' though rather than 'Part', normally you'd use Volume if there's a decent number of books rather than just two. Then again BL may have chosen that word just because it sounds cool.

 Londinium wrote:
The End and the Death? Who is naming these books?

Interesting that they used the word 'Volume' though rather than 'Part', normally you'd use Volume if there's a decent number of books rather than just two. Then again BL may have chosen that word just because it sounds cool.

The End and the Death is a pretty cool name.

Not happy about this though. So much for ‘limited 8 book series’. Another stressful morning of trying to get a copy without paying a scalper £200.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Even the final book isn't the final book.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/31/the-beginning-of-the-end-is-nigh-the-final-siege-of-terra-story-is-revealed/

Is that artwork the canonical size of the Emperor? He's the size of a small Titan?

I think canonically, the Emperor can appear however he wants.

The problem with that is he's sitting on an object of fixed size, though.

That’s just what he wants you to see.


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 The Phazer wrote:
I mean, Abnett has definitely said before that his personal cannon is that it's probably just an entire room of radioactive gubbins and any suggestion there's a throne at all is probably all psychic projection, so I'm not surprised they think he looks any size he wants.

And there have been multiple suggestions from the books that the Emperor is much smaller than usually depicted and it's all just a psychic bluff.

.

John Blanche has also said this. All artistic representations of the Emperor sitting on a literal golden throne are just allegorical. The actual Golden Throne is a vast machine.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Even the final book isn't the final book.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/31/the-beginning-of-the-end-is-nigh-the-final-siege-of-terra-story-is-revealed/

Is that artwork the canonical size of the Emperor? He's the size of a small Titan?

I think canonically, the Emperor can appear however he wants.

The problem with that is he's sitting on an object of fixed size, though.

Is it really though?

I'd just like to note, I called it.

By the End and the Death v16 it'll be 300 pages describing a single sword swing.