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Can a super-heavy shoot an ordnance weapon and other weapons in the same turn? in the brb ordnance disallows the shooting of any other weapons. However, in the Apoc rulebook it states "Super-heavy vehicles may fire all of their weapons, regardless of how far they moved".

Does this include ordnance?

Thanks

Lunarman

Back in 4th you couldn't even shoot ordnance when you moved and still superheavys shot all after moving.
So i think they can now.

It's Apoc! Make it up! :p

In all seriousness though, I would allow it, simply because it's silly for them not to be able to do so.

It's not clear either way.

lunarman wrote:Can a super-heavy shoot an ordnance weapon and other weapons in the same turn? in the brb ordnance disallows the shooting of any other weapons. However, in the Apoc rulebook it states "Super-heavy vehicles may fire all of their weapons, regardless of how far they moved".

Does this include ordnance?

If that's all Apocaplypse has to say on the matter (fire all of their weapons regardless of speed), it doesn't overrule the standard no other weapons if you fire ordnance.

But it's Apocalypse, so do whatever.

I think it is pretty clear because the origional BRB doesn't really mention super-heavy tanks in it under vehicle types, I know they existed in previous editions but they aren't mentioned in this specific editions BRB. As an expansion Apoc essentially added this type of vehicle to the 5th edition so the rules governing super-heavy tanks come exclusivley from the Apoc book. Additionally if codex's are seen as having the final word about the rules governing unit then the Apoc book should do the same with this vehicle type.

I would say yes they can fire ordinance like the others have said I just wanted to add justification to the argument.

I agree, a super-heavy should be able to fire ordnance and more to boot!

Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't IAA2 Explicitly explain how this works in the "Apocalypse Rules Update" section. I am at work at the moment, but someone with a copy should be able to verify/disprove this hopefully.

Btw, I'm pretty sure (incase it wasn't clear above) that IAA2 DOES allow the shooting of Ordinance weaponry as well as every other type in the same turn.

It also states that AP1 applies to the Superheavy Damage Table (a rule some people do NOT follow for 'god-knows-why') as well as explains what happens when Thunderhammers/Ordinance weaponry hits a Superheavy vehicle.

It's in IA2.

Superheavies can fire ordnance and all other weapons on the move.

Hoverboy - you're thinking of 3rd, sorry. In 4th you siimply scatered more if you moved.

nosferatu1001 wrote:Hoverboy - you're thinking of 3rd, sorry. In 4th you siimply scatered more if you moved.

Actually i'm just plain wrong since i started 40k at the end of 4th i never had the time to remember it properly

Well that WAS a rule in 3rd, so you were misremembering something you never knew in the first place

If you want "proof" the necron codex has it - the monoliths rule was to allow it to move and fire ordnance.

"super heavy vehicles may fire all of their weapons, regardless of how far they have moved. Each weapon may be fired at a different target (each target must be within the weapon's fire arc)"

pg92


So yeah, a super heavy can fire all it's weapons. There is no distinction between ordnance, ordnance barrage or D weapons.