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Is it feasible that the Ravenwing could call in the Deathwing when they find fallen, only for the fallen to vamoose and the Deathwing leap to the logical conclusion that "those guys with Dark Angel insignia in black power armour MUST be the Fallen".

I mean, it's really not very logical to have the first guys on the scene wear the same getups as the Fallen themselves. Surely there must have been numerous misunderstandings? Perhaps the Deathwing drag the Ravenwing members back, who scream "BUT I KNOW ABOUT THE FALLEN! THE UNFORGIVEN! OUR SECRET!" Only to get the reply "Hence why you must repent!" "But I'mma Ravenwing!" "LIARS, TRAITORS, DECEIVERS!"

Just my thought for the hour.

I was under the impression that the raven wing wore different insignia on their shoulder pad than all the other dark angels. Rather than the regualr winged sword they wear the Ravenwing symbol.

So unless the fallen could also have that insignia, and be on a bike/land speeder, and disguise their chaotic/traitorous armour (might be somewhat more damaged than the loyalist armour?) then I find it hard to believe that the Deathwing would make that mistake. They know what they're looking for, and would recognise friend from foe

While I am as grievously disappointed as anyone by the vast yawning gulf between how cool I thought the Dark Angels could be, and how cool they apparently are, even I would expect that in a Chapter of 1000 superhuman, genetically enhanced soldiers, that the 100 guys from the First Company could probably recognize the other 100 guys who are in their secret society.

Da Butcha wrote:While I am as grievously disappointed as anyone by the vast yawning gulf between how cool I thought the Dark Angels could be, and how cool they apparently are, even I would expect that in a Chapter of 1000 superhuman, genetically enhanced soldiers, that the 100 guys from the First Company could probably recognize the other 100 guys who are in their secret society.

QFT

Henners91 wrote:Is it feasible that the Ravenwing could call in the Deathwing when they find fallen, only for the fallen to vamoose and the Deathwing leap to the logical conclusion that "those guys with Dark Angel insignia in black power armour MUST be the Fallen".

No, because it is not a "logical conclusion" to ignore the fact you know the Ravenwing are there. It would be an idiot plot that would mark a story as completely stupid.

Nah you're being silly.

Logic dictates that the Fallen must've pretended to be the Ravenwing and called 'em in!

Right...because of course those traitors who are trying to hide from the Dark Angels would call the Deathwing onto their position. Logic wouldn't dictate that.

Also bear in mind that any Dark Angel transmissions regarding the Fallen would be heavily encrypted/only be able to be sent via official channels (so as not to attract unwanted attention). So by your theory of: "the fallen called in their enemy to kill them" they would have to have stolen teleport homers off the ravenwing, then found out the correct protocols to call in the deathwing. And logic dictates that to do so would require the fallen to ambush and kill the ravenwing in the first place.

Which brings us round to their being a crippled Ravenwing force (who the deathwing would recognise) and a few Fallen who for some reason seem to have a deathwish by calling in the people designed to kill them, while they are still around

I rest my case.

For now!

Without going into as much detail as the other poster. They would still have communication going between them. If the deathwing teleport in, they'll be right in the face or very close when they do. Do not forget that before the ravenwing call in the deathwing, they surround and pin the fallen down with supporting fire, so they would not be able to 'vamoose'