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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/01 10:51:10
Subject: 1500 point CSM (please comment)
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Gangly Grot Rebel
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I have a little tournement coming up against my mates soon and i wanted some feedback on an army im planning to use.....
I will be coming up against Tau, Space Marines, Necrons. Soooo here is my list. ( We will be playing a wide range of games)
HQ (335 Points)
Huron Blackheart- 170 points
Chaos Lord
Terminator Armour
Personal Icon
Mark Of Khorne
Combi-Wepon
Daemon Wepon- 165 points
Elites (230 Points)
5 chaos Terminators
Champion
Mark Of Khorne
Chainfist
Powerfist
Combi-Wepon X2
Heavy Flamer- 230 points
Troops (718 Points)
Chaos squad 1
Champion
Power Wepon
Chaos Glory Icon
Heavy Bolter
PLasma gun- 215 Points
Chaos squad 2 (chainswords & Boltpistols)
Champion
Power Fist
Melta Gun
Khorne Icon- 230 Points
Khorne Beserkers ( With Rhino )
Champion
Power Wepon
Personal Icon
Rhino- Daemonic possession & Havoc Launcher
- 273 points
Fast Attack(80 points)
2 Chaos Spawn
- 80 Points
Heavy Support(130 points)
Chaos Preditor
Heavy Bolter Sponsons
Daemonic Possession
Twin-Linked Bolter- 130 points
1493 points in total...
I will have my Chaos Lord and Terminators ready to deepstrike in...
Huron Blackheart will go in the Rhino with the Khorne Beserkers...
My Squad of Chaos Marines with Swords and pistols will be kept for a good counter attack...
My Chaos Marines with bolters will try get in a good defensive position...
My spawn are realy there to cause a distraction...
And the preditor will lay me down some fire power.
Im still tinkering with the list but i have a srong feeling this list can do well.
Any comments will be good
Cheers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/01 10:54:17
Subject: 1500 point CSM (please comment)
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, its not really tournament worthy.
Two HQs is a bit much at the 1500 pt level.
I'd take a DP any day.
Three troop units are fine, while the Termies are a bit questionable, same with the Spawns.
You need more fire support units.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/01 12:03:11
Subject: Re:1500 point CSM (please comment)
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Beast of Nurgle
Fort Wainwright Alaska
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I actually think your plan to run Huron up with the Zerkers is almost beautiful.
NOT a fan of the Khorne Daemon Weapon. He's got almost a 1-in-3 (11-in-36 to be precise) chance of not doing anything but taking a wound. That aside, the Chaos Lord is weak and unnecessary at 1500 pts.
Upgrading a termie to champ is 10 pts for +1A. Thats it. No access to any special gear. And for only 5 pts there is no reason not to give them all combi-weapons.
I was about to recommend that Chaos Squad 2 be changed to Berzerkers, but I see you're looking for the melta. Plus them up to 10, swap for IoK for IoCG and get a second meltagun. One shot is too random to count on.
The only think I think MIGHT be worth it on a rhino is simply extra armor. Daemonic Posessionis worth more than half the value of the Rhino. And who cares if a rhino can shoot. If you ditch that and the havoc launcher you can buy a whole rhino for your melta squad.
Why Chaos Spawn are Fast Attack when they are "SLOW and purposeful" is beyond me. And how can you call them "slow and PURPOSEFUL" when they are Mindless too???! Seriously. It;s like the great and mighty GW said, "CSM don't have enough fast attack options. We're not inventing a vehicle to fill the gap, they have to have infantry. Fast Daemons are so cool an idea we should make a new codex for daemons altogether. You know what Gav, we have that Spawn model some schmuck wasted all that time and money on; let's throw that in here. Otherwise the only time anyone will buy the model is for Gift of Chaos... But don't make it good at all. Let's make it so it cannot ever actually reach close combat if you ever actually plan to use it in combat ahead of time." Most useless unit in the codex. Posessed at least have a little flavor. You realize Gift of Chaos only costs 30 points for the chance to make a Spawn every turn the character is within 6 inches of an enemy with no save or Inv Save? Actually that's pretty awesome... I think I want to try out Gift of Chaos now.
If the Predator is the only Armor in your army (not including Rhinos) it's going to be scrap by turn two.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/01 15:11:10
Subject: 1500 point CSM (please comment)
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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Pomyboy wrote:
My Squad of Chaos Marines with Swords and pistols will be kept for a good counter attack...
My Chaos Marines with bolters will try get in a good defensive position...
Chaos Space Marines have Bolters, Bolt Pistols and a close combat weapon as standard, so the two squads here can do exactly the same thing as each other.
CSM are very versatile
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/01 20:06:43
Subject: Re:1500 point CSM (please comment)
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Beast of Nurgle
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Upgrading the termie with a chainfist to a champion is always a good idea, better chance at popping vehicles. Also always a good idea to swap out your CSM squads with Plague marines, there are a superior troop choice, especialy when used to claim objectives, this should be common knowlege now, they are alot harder to kill unless your fighting a plasma heavy army. The only HQ i can recommend is the Daemon Prince, cheap cost for an awesome stat line MC, give him wings, warptime and MoN to make him a mean beasty, I take 2 of them for 350 pts in nearly all my lists, use them to fly around and support your PM's in CC and cleave some tanks in half!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/10/02 16:20:58
Subject: 1500 point CSM (please comment)
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Furious Raptor
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Don't take chaos lord, 2 hq's are way too costy, i'd advise a sorcorer with mosl and lash in the rhino with the bezerkers, sorcorer with mark of slanesh, familiar warptime and lash is only something like 160p so you could without the 2nd hq and a sorcorer enstead of huron have a defiler and more glorious combie wepons for your termies
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