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I'm building a Witchhunter WH40K army around the concept of an Ordo Sicarius Inquisitor with an Adeptus Mechanicus retinue, whose duty focuses on the the Culexus Temple of Assassins, in a vendetta against the Necrons and their agenda.

The Adeptus Mechanicus retinue would be based around the cast featured in "Deus Ex Machina", with one (Magos Reston Egal) being a Necron in disguise (no effect in game terms, except for eventual special custom-made scenarios). I'd also like this retinue to be useable as a Necromunda gang (Van Saar count-as), and in this light I'm following the advice in the GW Tactica of having 3 acolytes, 3 warriors, 2 sages (Techpriests) and 2 chirurgeons.

Being the process of chosing models for building my army, I'd appreciate if I could have answers to a few questions:


UNIVERSE QUESTIONS :
- Is there an inconsistency with cannon in having :
a) an Inquisitor surrounded by Adepti Mechanici as a retinue, as the Treaty of Mars guaranteed Mars' autonomy and sovereignty from the Imperium?
b) an Inquisitor from Ordo Sicarius follow the rules for Ordo Hereticus (as there's no army listg for O.S.)?
c) xenos as part of an Inquisitor's retinue? (In this case, a Kroot and an Orc mek from the Blood Axe clan; the Ork's presence is justified by a campaign's focus on the planet Angelis, aka Gorkamorka, and relations with resident Diggas - degenerate humans). As a precedent, Madame Inquisitor Helena Jerico, in the graphic novel "Above and Beyond", had a Kroot among her retinue, which she indicates to be her slave or possession. The Dark Heresy rpg has something of a Trait called "sanctioned xenos", but I'm uncertain about the canonicity or the relevance outside the Calexis Sector.

RULES QUESTIONS
- Does a unit made of an Inquisitor and his retinue count as a "complex unit" in regard to wound allocation, as described in the 5th edition rulebook?
- Is it possible for a Witchunter army to pick allies from BOTH Daemonhunters and Imperial Guard? Is there a total maximum on units allowed? (For example, is it possible to pick 1 Elite choice from Daemonhunters and 1 other Elite choice from the IG?)
- Do a Culexus Assassin's powers count as psychic in regard of anti-psyker powers and gear?
- Do the C'tan count as psykers, in regard to Daemonhunters/Witchunter anti-psyker powers and gear (e.g. a Culexus Assassin's powers)?
- Do Necron Pariah powers count as psychic, for the same reason?
- On a general note, are there any psychic-like power that don't count as psychic in regard to Daemonhunters/Witchunter anti-psyker powers and gear?

Thanks!

silence indigo wrote:

Being the process of chosing models for building my army, I'd appreciate if I could have answers to a few questions:



RULES QUESTIONS
- Does a unit made of an Inquisitor and his retinue count as a "complex unit" in regard to wound allocation, as described in the 5th edition rulebook?
- Is it possible for a Witchunter army to pick allies from BOTH Daemonhunters and Imperial Guard? Is there a total maximum on units allowed? (For example, is it possible to pick 1 Elite choice from Daemonhunters and 1 other Elite choice from the IG?)
For two elite choices: Nope. The FoC for allies is clear. [p. 25], but as far as I can see there's no reason you can't have a mix of IG and DH as long as they stay in the FoC.
- Do a Culexus Assassin's powers count as psychic in regard of anti-psyker powers and gear?
No. Culexus Assassins don't have the Psyker special rule.
- Do the C'tan count as psykers, in regard to Daemonhunters/Witchunter anti-psyker powers and gear (e.g. a Culexus Assassin's powers)?
No. C'tan don't have the Psyker special rule, do not require psychic tests to use their abilities--So a Culexus can't charge a C'tan under the Psyker Assassin special rule, use psych-out grenades, etc.
- Do Necron Pariah powers count as psychic, for the same reason?
Nope.

Hope this helps.

It does, thanks!

edit: typos

i would see nothing wrong with ad-mech with inquisitor.

although as a note: there was about 20 pages on this in the warseer WH tactica thread:

if you take a DH inquisitor as your elite choice, it is considered extremely bad form or outright cheating to take an imperial assassin unless you also have a WH inquisitor in your force.

while i don't really have a huge problem with it and makes sense fluff-wise (there's no reason that an DH Inquisitor couldn't requisition an assassin if he wanted one), there's strong arguments supporting the position that, since the allied DH Inq is ordering the assassin, you are effectively taking two elites choices from a separate ally parent codex.

anyway, YMMV, but don't be surprised if you try it and catch heat.

In the present case, the army's general (HQ) would be an Inquisitor Lord from the Witchhunter (WH) army list (Ordo Sicarius-those who watch over the assassins), hence I don't think there would be a breach of etiquette.

Basically I'm trying to find a way to integrate in a cool-looking and fun way my Imperium models (I have several IG infantry models) in a coherent army list, to make opponents for my xenos armies. I'd have liked to find a way to include my Space Marine Terminators from the Spacehulk game but I can't find a way unless I start buying a lot of space marine (SM) models to make the base army SM instead of WH, which I don't want to do.

This list will probably go something like this (if it's legal) :

WITCHUNTER ARMY
HQ Inquisitor Lord with melta or plasma gear, carapace armour and emperor's tarot
+ Retinue (2 sages, 2 chirurgeons, 3 acolytes, 3 warriors) with anti-tank focus

ELITE Culexus Assassin
Daemonhosts (allies - Daemon Hunters)

FAST Sentinels (Allies) with anti-tank gear

HEAVY Exorcist with anti-tank gear
Artillery Bombardment (anti-tank)
Artillery Bombardment (anti-infantry)

TROOPS Adepta Sororitas (20)
Adeptus Arbites (Necromunda Enforcers) (10)
Stormtroopers (10)
Stormtroopers (10)
Imperial Guard regiment (allies)
Imperial Guard regiment (allies)

silence indigo wrote:UNIVERSE QUESTIONS :
- Is there an inconsistency with cannon in having :
a) an Inquisitor surrounded by Adepti Mechanici as a retinue, as the Treaty of Mars guaranteed Mars' autonomy and sovereignty from the Imperium?

That's fine. That same autonomy would allow an interested Ad-Mech techpriest to accompany your Inquisitor by choice, if the Inquisitor agreed.

c) xenos as part of an Inquisitor's retinue? (In this case, a Kroot and an Orc mek from the Blood Axe clan; the Ork's presence is justified by a campaign's focus on the planet Angelis, aka Gorkamorka, and relations with resident Diggas - degenerate humans). As a precedent, Madame Inquisitor Helena Jerico, in the graphic novel "Above and Beyond", had a Kroot among her retinue, which she indicates to be her slave or possession. The Dark Heresy rpg has something of a Trait called "sanctioned xenos", but I'm uncertain about the canonicity or the relevance outside the Calexis Sector.

The Ork is not appropriate. A Kroot, Eldar or Tau is only an individual - keep an eye on them, and they're not a threat. An Ork reproduces by dropping spores, meaning his presence alone might be sufficient to spread the Ork threat. It would be like accepting a Genestealer into your retinue.

Genetically, this observation against orks makes sense. However, doesn't the Rogue Trader supplement "INTO THE STORM" allow for Orks to be sanctioned xenos?

Edit : Rules-wise, is iit also possible to take two Inquisitor Lords as HQ, one from the Witchhunter list and one as an ally from the Ordo Malleus codex (with of course different retinue and gear options)?