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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 13:58:40
Subject: Bullets that ignore cover?
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Quick question about the "Ignores Cover" rule that some weapons posses.
Hypothetically if I was playing someone and they turbo-boosted and got their cover save when I damage the vehicle, would my weapon that ignores cover disallow them from making a cover save?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 14:00:30
Subject: Re:Bullets that ignore cover?
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Sinewy Scourge
Long Island, New York, USA
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If a unit gets a cover save, and is hit by a weapon that ignores cover, they don't get the cover save.
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I have found again and again that in encounter actions, the day goes to the side that is the first to plaster its opponent with fire. The man who lies low and awaits developments usually comes off second best. - Erwin Rommel
"For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged, by better information or fuller consideration, to change opinions, even on important subjects, which I once thought right but found to be otherwise." - Benjamin Franklin
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 14:08:06
Subject: Bullets that ignore cover?
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Regular Dakkanaut
Cedar Rapids, IA
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So yah...flamering a turboboosted simmer is going to remove the cover save granted by that. Wiether or not it hurts the vehicle being strength 4/5 is another story.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 18:09:11
Subject: Bullets that ignore cover?
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Zonder wrote:So yah...flamering a turboboosted simmer is going to remove the cover save granted by that.
Careful with the language: it doesn't "remove" the save (implying it is gone, and that future shooting doesn't have to deal with it either), it simply ignores it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 18:51:45
Subject: Bullets that ignore cover?
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Lord of the Fleet
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Yeah, if it "ignores cover" or anything like that, it disallows all cover saves, regardless of the circumstances in which they get the save. As far as I know, the only thing which only disallows certain types of cover save is the Hydra Autocannon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 19:00:58
Subject: Bullets that ignore cover?
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Alright thanks guys, issue came up when I played a game against my Tau friend. Shot his piranhas with the Vanguard Vet special ammo that ignores cover and he disagreed that it ignores cover saves from something that has turbo-boosted.
Got two glances and he made both cover saves
Oh well now I know  Thanks guys!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 19:07:37
Subject: Re:Bullets that ignore cover?
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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Skimmers 4+ cover and Bikes 3+ cover are both classified as "cover saves", therefore any weapon that ignores cover will ignore these saves. Sternguard Dragonfire Bolts still apply.
Vanguard don't carry those rounds FYI. If you were indeed using Vanguard then your opponent was correct.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2010/12/21 19:09:42
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 21:15:57
Subject: Bullets that ignore cover?
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Ah that would be my mistake, misread the 'dex entry  . Really he wasn't correct, I was just incorrect about the Vanguard Vets having that ammo, but I was right about it ignoring cover saves from turbo-boosting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 21:17:40
Subject: Bullets that ignore cover?
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Abhorrent Grotesque Aberration
Hopping on the pain wagon
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just replace vanguard with sternguard and you are correct ;-)
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