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can a death company dread hold an objective?
im sure it probably cant but cant find anything that says it cant.

The dread is a vehicle. Look at the rules for what determines scoring units, and how vehicles are specifically prohibited.

Page 90, Scoring Units is the clear and explicit rule you're looking for.

But just FYI, a troops choice in a dedicated tranport sitting on an objective counts as holding that objective.

Plus, death company models can't hold objectives anyway: this was handled in a battle report when somebody at GW made an all death company army and flat out stated the only way to win was annihilation because there were no scoring units at all in his army.

liam0404 wrote:But just FYI, a troops choice in a dedicated tranport sitting on an objective counts as holding that objective.

Because it is the Troops infantry(or jump infantry when Blood angels in a storm raven) that score not the transport. Also the transport that the troops unit is inside of does not need to be dedicated.

Timetowaste: Death company dreads do not have the same rules as death company(black rage); specifically they do not not score by virtue of sharing a name element and fluff, but rather by being vehicles.

Nope, vehicles cannot hold objectives. Page 90. Only exception is a transport that has a scoring unit inside.

Does a vendetta holding a scoring unit over an objective count as holding it, even though the hull is more than 3" away from the objective?
Holding objectives isn't embark/debark, or assault, so the special rule for using the base doesn't apply.
Thoughts?

The FAQ answer says that you measure to the base for contesting objectives, which implies that you'd also measure to it for holding an objective with a scoring unit inside.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1490293a_FAQ_ImperialGuard_2009.pdf

It isn't explicit, but given that you measure to the hull for a regular vehicle contesting an objective, and you measure to the hull for a transport vehicle containing a scoring unit holding an objective, it makes sense.

Yes the Valk/vendetta (Carrying a troop unit) can claim an objective, or contest an objective with/without the unit embarked.

This is because the IG FAQ says it does:

Q. How do you treat the Valkyrie base for
gaming? Due to its height it seems that it is
impossible for a Valkyrie to contest an objective,
or for troops to disembark/embark normally.

A. Follow the rules in Measuring Distances in the
Skimmers section in the Warhammer 40,000
rulebook with the following exception: For the
purposes of contesting objectives and
embarking/disembarking from a Valkyrie or
Vendetta, measure to and from the model’s base.
For example, models wishing to embark within a
Valkyrie can do so if at the end of their
movement, all models within the unit are within
2" of the Valkyrie’s base.

wow, sry for hijacking the thread, but does this also go for wave serpents?? Do you measure from the flying base and not the hull of the vehicle?!
Just asking, because i play against eldars so much that this will totally nerf them if true

EDIT: Just reread the rule about skimmers... So the problem with vendetta is that it's too high from ground?

It has a different base, which is bigger an much higher than the serpent's one.

The Valk/Vendetta had this rule Faq'd because the hull is more than 3" from the ground.

The Storm Raven has this rule built in.

liam0404 wrote:But just FYI, a non-vehicle troops choice in a [snip] tranport sitting on an objective counts as holding that objective.

Fixed that for you. You could have a Death Company Dread in a Stormraven, but it would not hold only challenge the objective.

Homer