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I have started Chaos space marines and decided to go with a plague marine theme for all the nice conversions. Please comment and tell me if this is a competitive list

Demon Prince 175
-Mark of Nurgle, Warptime, Wings

Demon Prince 175
-Mark of Nurgle, Warptime, Wings

7 Plague Marines 271
-Champion, Power fist, 2 Meltaguns
Dedicated Transport (Rhino)

7 Plague Marines 271
-Champion, Power fist, 2 Meltaguns
Dedicated Transport (Rhino)

7 Plague Marines 266
-Champion, Power fist, 2 Plasma Guns
Dedicated Transport (Rhino)

7 Plague Marines 246
-Champion, Power fist, 2 Flamers
Dedicated Transport (Rhino)

3 Obliterators 225

3 Obliterators 225

Defiler 150
2 Dreadnought Close Combat Weapons

1974

Any note on the points left over would be nice and thank you.

I know it wont suit the theme, but swapping the MoN for MoS and Lash of Submission would be an EXCELLENT way to get the most mileage out of the oblits and the Defilers battle cannon.

Other than that, looks good


EDIT:spelling

This is indeed a competitive list - I would go so far as to say it is pretty much the template competitive list for nurgle CSM. HQ and troops are excellent. I personally think you might be better off taking 3x2 obliterators as heavy support (I am not that impressed by one defiler) and buying a deepstrike melta squad (raptors or terminators); or just taking 8 obliterators. I really rate units with powerful weaponry and the ability to deepstrike, and I think 1 big AV12 vehicle is a bit out of place in this list.

Overally, no need to worry, this is a very strong set-up, my eldar always have a very hard time getting through so many high-toughness, armoured wounds.

Drop the power fists as it makes Champions expensive, that's 23 points for the Plague Marine 15 points for the Champion 25 points for the first costing 73 points if I am correct definately not worth it. You will get about 200 points by dropping all of those.

Ditch the Defiler, it's nothing but a big target. More Obliterators would be sweet giving more long range fire power.

Personally, I would keep the powerfists in. The total cost for the champion model would be 63 points, yes. But really its a 40 pt upgrade to the squad over having no champion. Plague marines are tough, have pistols and ccw, and defensive grenades. They are made to hold objectives, against some armies that means facing assault, and the powerfist helps them do that. The other option is paying a total of 115 points for one squad to have a bare champion, with a greater daemon in reserve, which would also be a gnarly objective-taking unit.

Power fists are not defensive weapons and Plague Marines shouldn't be sitting on objectives with meltas. Too expensive upgrade for little return, especially across the army. A Plague Marine unit with a fist will only last marginally longer in combat. Fist is best against vehicles, but cost outweighs the pros. Only need to take Champions when using Greater Daemons.

only thing i would suggest as i play a very similar list is to take 2 squads of 2 obbys and then thro in a greater daemon as they are almost equal to a daemon prince but for 100 points you can sacrifice a champion and boom nasty in ur enemy's face