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So i play 1250 matches with friends every saturday

I'm missing this saturday due to a prior engagment, but I'm going to run something really odd to come back

last week i played a manz nobz group and it did well then tied an IG list with a kan wall

this next weekend I want to do somethign i've never tried and looks fun, a deep striking ork list

I'm using the deep striek in an IC w/ kommandoes cause its fun to use sometimes

group 1

Mad DOC
snickrot
kommandoes x14
burnas x2 30

415 points

group 2

19 stormboyz
boss xagstruk

313 points

group 3

Warboss with megaarmor
5 meganobs 1BP
cybork bodies
in a trukk
270

group 3

23 shoota boys
1 nob w/ PK & BP

142 points

3x cannons 60

any sugestions to make it better while still maintaining the theme of the list?

i wanna try the deep striking liks both snickrot w/ mad doc to give the komandoes FNP and they'll be assaulting the closest unit anyway (after shooting the burnas)

zagstruck is always a fun addition and bacicaly its 19 boys that can try to assault the turn they come in

mega nobz in the truck basically if they try to move in from the edges try to get in turn 1 assault, otherwise if i go second trukk goes out of line of sight and tries to zip in dropping the Manz and warboss into assault as quick as possible

lobas and cannons in cover w/ lobas out of sight for artilary shenanagins

boys hold down objective in case things get past the artilary fire

if anialation the boys try to stay in cover saves and charge in behind if they get to 12 or less and trukk is alive they try to get in the trukk

basically I'm debating dropping the warboss and mega nob in favor of another group of boys foot slogging or a looted wagon with boom gun and then a group of gretchin / more boys with the remaining points

nay input... htoughts.. critisisms?

i know its not a tourney list by any means and it snot supposed to be, its for a fun game with friends

Its definitely a different build thats for sure. Its just crazy enough to actually work though if your lucky. My complaints is the 17 boyz mob and your heavy support choices.

Rule of thumb is if the boyz are not in a trukk, 20 is minimum, so if you could try and get those numbers up a smidge. Also the 2 lobbas seems a little weird as well. I know your thinking more crowd control with them but it just seems a little weird not taking the full 3. Mainly because it IS BS3 so unless your scatter is bang on your probably going to miss, so any chance to remedy that is what Id go with.

Let us know how this one does ya?

Tell me if i'm reading this wrong, but it looks like 3 HQ choices there...

Snikrot
Mad Doc Grotsnik
Zagstruk


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or did you mistake Snikrot for Grotsnik??? Its a close name..

Snikrot isn't actually an HQ is he?
He's not marked as HQ in the Codex.
Isn't he just a "Special Rule" Kommando which is "elite"?

Might be my bad there... I just assumed...

actually mad doc and the warboss are the 2 hq's

snickrot is an elite who can lead komandoes in place of a nob

also Zagstruk is just an option to lead your fast attack stormboyz

its a legal list

the mega nobz can be taken as a troop choice due to the warboss

2HQ
2 troop
1 elite
1 fast attack
2 heavy support

I'm looing into what ya said KingCracker and i'm playign with the ide of eliminating the lobbaz for more boys and possible red paint on the trukk..

part of the fun on the list is the mega nobz in a trukk are seen as a huge threat so peopel will want to hug the back wall to avoid them... however due to 2 deep striking forces they'll either have to risk being in or letting my two deep strike teams be really effective.

the artilary and boys should be good holding down objectives or raining shots from afar in terrain

another thorugh over meganobz was warboss on a bike with biker nobs and turning the boys to grots to take points htere... btu i think i like it with meganobz better

If you're going for a deepstrike sort of theme, you need to find a way to get some Outflanking Deffkoptas in there.

this is my first 1250 without def coptas. i love em but to be honest in this build i just don't think i need em / could fit them without crippling somethign else

the idea of outflanking does belogn though and if this was a 1500 + list there would surely be a group of 3 deff koptas on it

i just can't see where i could cut the points, btu if you have any sugestions i'd love to hear it! ... though now you're makign me think more trash the regular boys and mega nobz for wazdakka instead of warboss and then jet bikes and bikes as troops ... grots for the second... ok back to playing with the list.. thanks for the what turned into a bike idea (and sorry about the insight into how my scatter brain works)

Ye, you're right... Just looked in the book and neither Snikrot or Zagstruk are ICs.

Posssible 4 named orks in One army... Sick!!

ok alternate list cause i liked the bikez... btu also still think the meganobs make for more of a threat in the middle... we'll see

group 1

15 x kommandoes
2 x burnas
15 x cybork bodies
+ Snikrot
+ Mad Doc Grotsnik

500pts

group 2

19 stormboyz
bossagstruk

313 points

group 3

wazdakka w/ cybork
5 bikes w/ cybork 1 is nob with PK

370

group 4

19 grots
1 ruth

67

I really tried to get in koptas but its hard to pull off while maintaining the 2 troop choices (at 1250 points)... and in this list buggies just made more sense they will outlast koptas and are fast so should be able to do more dmg and last longer imo


really now its a which do i take and if the first list with the mega nobs I am going to play with it and edit up there to knock out the lobbas and add more boys

so compare away, what do ya think and will it be effective/fun/ completely different

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Snikrot Mad Doc Grotsnik combo just brilliant!!
i would add cybork bodies too the kommandoes
also note snikrot is not upgraded from a boy instead he may led the unit

15 x kommandoes
2 x burnas
15 x cybork bodies
+ Snikrot
+ Mad Doc Grotsnik
total 500pts

hmm I'll think about it... thats 85 poitns... only place i think i cna pull that is myab eeliminating the buggies... which i think might draw some fire/get some rokkits... but then again cyborks on komandos means they live longer and can survive heavy hits from stronger units...


I'll think abotu it and update later i'll probably do it.. olus that frees up points to make the one biker nob get a PK instaed of big choppa 3 pk attacks is real nice doen right thats 7 pk strikes (including wazdakka's) in an assault (9 on the charge) and might be abel to if vehicles are close pull off 2 vehicle kills or a monstrous creature

decitions decitions

OK, go taround to modifying both list, its for this coming saturday I liek them both adn am going to field both, the question is which one to field this sat.

dropped the 2 lobbaz in the first list in favor of more boyz per klng's sugestion

i think i will likely field the fisrt list first since i feel the idea of the meganobz will scare people to be closer to the edges... as the second list is gonna have people trying to come into the middle since the bikers are nto as much of a threat

in the first one i also liek that i got a real group of boyz who if its not an objectie games have a chance to make it up into combat once everything is out

I'll let you guys know how it goes.. like i said i wanted somethign compeltely different for an ork list and i think i suceeded. i think the people i play against will appreciate it as they like tha tthey never know what to expect with me, i play a different list every week

any more input for changes.. I'd love to do cyborks on the komadoes in list one like list to but can't figure out what i should/could cut for that... i was thinking of cutting stormboys numbers a bit back from 19 but i can see 19 absorbing alot of hits for zagstruk... so to be honest i don't think that'd be worth it.

dropping the 3 kannons and 3 boys to get 5 lootas on the first one was another idea thoughts?

and of coarse the overarchign question is 1st list or second list... i like em both like previously mentioned I'm leaning toward the 1st... but could be convinced to do the second if peopel think it'd do better.. i just think with that list people would hug farthest from the edges as possible since bikes aren't as threatening as MANZ