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I'm going to my first tournament in may and am taking Orks...having only fought against sm, nids and eldar in planned battles im looking for an army thats resilient against all comers. Here are my suggestions
HQ Zog Warphead 85pts
Elites 10 Burnaz 150 pts
8 Nobz( 2 w/powerklaws) in a battlewagon 210+90=300
troops 25 boyz 1 nob 160
25boyz 1 nob 160

fast attack 3deffkoptaz w/twin linked rokits 135 pts
990pts

2.
HQ gruumsh warboss w/powerklaw and twin linked shoota 90 pts
Elites 8 Nobz/ w painboy and 1 w/ powerklaw 215 in battlewagon 90 = 305
10 burnaz 150 pts (1 mek)
1 trukk 35 pts
troops 25 boys/1 nob 160pts
25 boyz/1 nob 160pts
fast attack 4 bikerz w/ dakka gunz 100pts
1000pts

3.
HQ Gog big mek/ shokk attack gun 95pts
elites 9 Nobz/ 1 painboy+2 powerklawz 260 pts
Battlewagon 90pts
6 lootaz/ 2 meks 90 pts
troops 25 boyz/ 1nob 160pts
25 boyz/1 nob 160pts
fast attack 3 deffkoptaz w/twin linked rockits 145 pts
1000pts

4.
HQ Kruumsh warboss w/ attack squig /shootaskorcha 80pts
elites 5 MegaNobz 1 kombishootaskorcha 205pts
1 trukk 35 pts
4 lootas w/1 rockit 65 pts
troops 29 boyz/ 1nob powerklaw 209 pts
29 boyz/1 nob w/ powerklaw 209pts
30 gretchin 3 runtherds 120 pts
fast attack 3 bikerz w/ twin dakkagunz 75 pts

998pts

well 4 different armies w/ different tactics...which is the hardiest tho....?

#2 for me, although #3 is a close 2nd.
In #2 the nobz + WB in the BW make a nice deathstar. The burnas (if you can get them where they need to be via the trukk) can be devastating. 25x man boyz are solid units albeit a bit slow. The bikers give you some speed/backup to the BW/trukks.
Are you open to tweaking the lists at all or do you just want the hardest?

definately open to change

#2 Seems pretty strong to me too.

I'd consider swapping the Warboss for a Big Mek with KFF to sit in the Trukk with the Burnas, and maybe dropping the amount of boyz you have so you can give each squad a Power Klaw.

2.
HQ gruumsh warboss w/powerklaw and twin linked shoota 90 pts
Elites 8 Nobz/ w painboy and 1 w/ powerklaw 215 in battlewagon 90 = 305
10 burnaz 150 pts (1 mek)
1 trukk 35 pts
troops 25 boys/1 nob 160pts
25 boyz/1 nob 160pts
fast attack 4 bikerz w/ dakka gunz 100pts
1000pts

Suggested changes then. I dont have codex/AB at hand so you'll have to work up the points yourself.

Drop the shoota on the WB, personally I rarely shoot with him.
Give each nob a unique piece of wargear to make him different from the next, that way you can do wound allocation tricks. For exmple give one a boss pole, another an ammo squig etc. However this will seriously increase the cost of this unit, since its a 1000 point game maybe just giving 2-3 of them different things would work better.
Drop a few boys and take a nob in the bikers with a PK, it gives them more utility/hitting power.
If you are confident your battlefield will have lots of terriain to use as cover for your trukks/BW then I wouldnt take the BM with KFF. The warboss hits like a truck and and coupled with the nobz they will devastate most units. However if your terrain is lacking the BM/KFF combo is great since it'll give your vehicles cover as they move forward.

The other final change is a fairly big one and will change your list composition from the basic one you came up with yourself (Im always hesitant to change peoples lists since trying things out is the best way to learn) but (!) you could drop the boyz units down to about 18 per mob and take up some lootas. They will really help with shooting up light/medium or killing troops. Since your trukks/BW/bikers will hopefully tie up enemy units early, the need for larger 25 man units becomes less. 25+ is really for footslogger type lists, which are going to take serious fire as they march up the field.

You can't have burnas in a trukk for your second list.

skycapt44 wrote:You can't have burnas in a trukk for your second list.

You can if you have the Trukk as the Nobz' dedicated transport and buy the Wagon as a Heavy support choice.

list 3 is nice .
You MUST take weapons on the Battle Wagon, as you take them any weapon destroyed will swap to immobilised.

Since your not useing any of your Heavy Support maybe put in a lobba or 9 since there 25pts each and it's only 3 pts for re-roll

The_Happy_Pig wrote:

skycapt44 wrote:You can't have burnas in a trukk for your second list.

You can if you have the Trukk as the Nobz' dedicated transport and buy the Wagon as a Heavy support choice.

By all means take a 150pt unit in a weak trukk. It won't get destroyed the first turn. Don't you also have to use a movement turn to swap out the units?

Hey I could be way off on this one but I am pretty confident that burnas are best suited in BW and kommandos. Try the trukk idea, but if I had half a brain I would pop that single trukk because I know burnas can do some damage. It just doesn't make sense. Am I the only one?

what about list 1.. the weirdboy teleporting the burnaz into action?



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surely the bikes will give the trukk a 4+ cover save w/ exhaust fumes?

I agree with Skycapt

so the trukk would have to be a looted wagon

Burnas need a BW to ride around in so the first two lists are out.

I really am not a fan of any of these lists though as they all mix some mechanised with foot and I think that's not the way to go with orks. Orks need to hit with the full force of their army all at once, preferably overwhelming part of your opponent's army with the full force of your army. This can be accomplished by walking or driving up your horde so they all hit at the same time. If you do both they will hit at different times, allowing your opponent to deal with pieces of your army at a time.

Walking orks should either be screened by dreads and kans or taken in massive numbers. Mech orks should have a KFF mek to protect their trukks and wagons.