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i was in this tournament yesterday and one of the missions was kill points and my opponent ws telling me that despite the fact my blob is a single unit that when it is killed the kill points you get for it is equal to the number of squads you origanally paid for to put in the blob. is this true or does my blob count as 1 kill point like i have always assumed it does?

One unit = 1 KP.

A blob consisting of anything between 2-5 infantry squads is ONE kill point.

Snarky has it.

Though IIRC the command section cannot join the blob, and so each fully-blobbed platoon will always have at least two KPs available- 1 for the blob and one for the 5 guys in the command section who could be hiding in a corner somewhere.

we were talking specifically about the PISs. He failed to wipe it out but he said since i paid for four squads when it died it counted as four kill points plus my IC which i though was bull

General Ian wrote:we were talking specifically about the PISs. He failed to wipe it out but he said since i paid for four squads when it died it counted as four kill points plus my IC which i though was bull

Your opponent was dead wrong; Blobs=1 kill point, the IC was an additional KP though; you really should have called the TO over to handle the question(assuming the TO wasn't an idiot he would have set your opponent straight rather quickly, isf the TO was an idiot you know not to play in any tourneys run by him again).

This is the entire point of the blob rule. So IG aren't utterly boned in KP missions.

Opponent= cheater, or badly ignorant.

General Ian wrote:we were talking specifically about the PISs. He failed to wipe it out but he said since i paid for four squads when it died it counted as four kill points plus my IC which i though was bull

Out of curiosity, what was the IC?

i thought it was the hole platoon counted as one KP

"At the end of the game each player receives 1 'kill point' for each enemy unit that has been completely destroyed"(BRB pg.91)

10 TacMarines combat squadded in 2x5 = 2 kill points
1 Platoon with 80 man blob = 2 kill points (comand squad + blob)

ironhandstraken wrote:i thought it was the hole platoon counted as one KP

No. It is one FOC *choice* that is made of of 2+ *units*

KP cares about *units*, not *choices*

To OP - you opponent was ignorant or cheating. KP cares about how many UNITS are killed. One blob squad == one unit, therefore is one KP

don_mondo wrote:
Out of curiosity, what was the IC?

priest w/ eviscerator and after a while a lonely lord commissar came and joined them since the unit he was with died

Ignorance or intent to cheat aside, he was arguing for the most favourable ruling. I wouldn't hold it against him - but you should explain it to him now you're sure of how it works!

unless its in writing somewhere he wont believe me or the rulings of dakkaites. even though it was in writing that a blob is 1 unit and you get a kill point for each unit he still didnt belive me on ow that would have scored up

The ruling should be in the Guard codex under the Infantry Platoon section about [Combined Squads].

it doesnt specificaly say "for the purpose of kill points a combined infantry squad counts as one kill point" or something like that it just says for gameplay it acts like a single unit and can not break back down into indivdual squads again. no matter how hard i tried to explain that my squad was only worth 1 kp he still didnt believe me. its probably just because i was winning and it was the first time this guy ever lost to me

Well point to him the rule about Kill Points, What qualifies for a Kill Point? Killing one unit for one Kill Point. Does the Combined Infantry squads count as one unit or two?

Really if this comes up in a tournament just call the TO so you don't waste time arguing.

Ian - as above. If he wont belive that one unit == one KP, then dont play him.

If in a tournament then the TO will hopefully tell them their error.