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[Mod Edit - that title was a little annoying]

ok guys me and my friend the hive emperor are prepareing a doubles list for when we do play doubles tournaments and what not so was just wondering what dakka would say

ok my list ( grey knights ) is as follows


castellian crow - 150

troops
puriffier squad-333
4 halberds
1demon hammer ( not on knight of flame )
4 psycannons
rhino

puriffier squad-333
4 halberds
1demon hammer ( not on knight of flame )
4 psycannons
rhino

heavy support

nemisis dread knight -205
personal teleporter

nemisis dread knight -205
personal teleporter


AND I HAVE 24 POINTS LEFT AHHHH WHAT DO I DO




ok thats it for my list now the space puppies unfortunately he did not tell me points so bear with me

HQ
rune priest
living lightning
JOTWW

rune priest
living lightning
murderous huricane

wolf guard battle leader
frost weapon

troops
grey hunter pack
9man
mark of the wolfen
wolf standard
meltagun
rhino ( with additional storm bolter )

grey hunter pack
9man
mark of the wolfen
wolf standard
meltagun
rhino ( with additional storm bolter )

grey hunter pack
9man
mark of the wolfen
wolf standard
meltagun
rhino ( with additional storm bolter )

heavy support

long fang pack
6man
5 missle launchers

long fang pack
6man
5 missle launchers
he clams to have 0 points remaining

well dakka what do you think

we have lots of mid range shooting with long range shooting and both of the armys excel at counter assaulting the enemy

i dont know anything about the space wolves list but i think the GK list could use some more men try takeing out a dread knight and adding maybe a strike squad in a rhino

I don't know the Grey Knight Codex yet, but your buddy's Space Wolf list is off. He's sitting at 1200 points unless you forgot something. Also he still has to have different Wargear on his Rune Priests in addition to the different psychic powers. The Codex says: "...no two characters may bear the same saga, nor may they bear the same psychic powers or Wargear combination." Wargear is separate from the Psychic Powers (at least that's always been the ruling where I've played, and they are listed separately in the Codex).

If it were me, I'd give one of the Rune Priests a Chooser of the Slain and give a Storm Shield and Wolf Tooth Necklace to the Wolf Guard Battle Leader. Without an Invulnerable Save he's going to be toast against a lot of HQ choices (I may be biased as I play most against 'Nids and CSM). Beyond that his list is a fairly standard template. Boring for my tastes, but fully capable of dealing with anything (though AV14 requires he get within 6" to be reliable).

Other than his Long Fangs, he'll be mounted up and mobile. His heavy weapons are going to be vulnerable unless he's using the Rhinos as bunkers (entirely likely). Common tactic for that list is to let the Rune Priests pop the top of the Rhino and spam Living Lightning while the Long Fangs fire off those 10 Missile Launchers. The mobility lets you make a hole in the enemy line to drive into. With that kept in mind you should be able to come up with a list that complements his.

Doubles tournaments are fun, but each partner doing his own thing just makes your team easier to deal with usually.

I completely forgot about that rule! Ill redo my math to see how many points I have left. Thanks for the input cowmonaut!

Hey hive was up

@ light of the emperor
You really think i need more models on the field when i have 20 purifiers???
i know it doesnt sound much but hey even the space wolf guy is bringing
several grey hunter packs
just wondering
and i also think that droping a single dread knight is not a good idea for 2
is needed for the redundancy and to draw that really nasty attack from my purifiers
and long fangs

Nothing to add to what has been said above really, but on a side note, your thread title kind of has the opposite affect that I think you are looking for.

The Hive Emporer wrote:I completely forgot about that rule! Ill redo my math to see how many points I have left. Thanks for the input cowmonaut!

If push comes to shove, leave one with the bolt pistol and replace the pistol with a boltgun on the other. Points don't change that way and you technically have complied with the rule.

I'd drop one or both of the dread Knights. I'd get Halberds onto all your purifiers not carrying Psycannons (or a Daemon hammer). I'd get Psyfleman Dreads and more bodies or split the squads into 5 men squads so that all your psycannons can fire out of your Rhino top hatches...

Revised list
HQ
Wolf Guard Battle Leader-135
-frost weapon
-storm shield
-wolf tooth necklace

Ruin Priest- 110
-Chooser
-Living Lighting
-JOTTW

Ruin Priest- 110
-Wolf Tail Talisman
-Living Lighting
-Murderous Hurricane

Troops
Grey Hunters-165
-9X
-Melta
-Wolf Standard
-MofF
Rhino-45
-additional storm bolter

Grey Hunters-165
-9X
-Melta
-Wolf Standard
-MofF
-Rhino-45
-additional storm bolter

Heavy Support
Long Fang Pack-140
-6X
-5X ML

Long Fang Pack-140
-6X
-5X ML

Long Fang Pack-140
-6X
-5X ML

So I'm looking at a support role, the ruin priests will stay with the Long Fangs, the Battle Leader will be in a rhino and the rhinos will be used to either take objectives or flank.

If i remember correctly Castellan Crowe can't go with a unit and will just get shot by a S8 weapon and die, he needs something 2 get him into combat safely

If i remember correctly Castellan Crowe can't go with a unit and will just get shot by a S8 weapon and die, he needs something 2 get him into combat safely

His main job is to make Purifiers troops. His secondary job is to act as a lone vindicator (i.e. fire magnet). You don't really need or care about him hitting home. He's just there to take firepower that would otherwise be popping your vehicles.

and my dread knights are doing the same thing anythey ARE scarry once they come in contact with a tank

but they are really there to draw fire from the purifiers and grey hunters

The Hive Emporer wrote:
Ruin Priest- 110
-Wolf Tail Talisman
-Living Lighting
-Murderous Hurricane

I think he's a bit more expensive than you need him to be. Also, Nerrik had a stroke of subtle genius. You could drop the Wolf Tail Talisman on this guy and give him a Bolter and Chooser of the Slain. He'll lose one attack in HTH but then you can really shut down infiltrators and both your Rune Priests will be hitting on 2's with their Living Lightning blasts.

The Hive Emporer wrote:
So I'm looking at a support role, the ruin priests will stay with the Long Fangs, the Battle Leader will be in a rhino and the rhinos will be used to either take objectives or flank.

Unless I overlooked something, I think you're sitting at 1195/1250 points. I'd add in an extra Grey Hunter to at least 2 of the Rhinos so that you can get that second free special weapon. You'd still be at 1225 so you have a decent chunk of points to play with (25). Maybe throw on Extra Armor on some Rhinos too?

Tactically you guys can have some real fun. I believe your GK ally is walking up the board while you are mounted. That gives you a few options, from screening his infantry and rushing ahead, to staying in the back and diving where needed. Should be a fun match up to play against you guys, wish I was anywhere near you to participate!

cowmonaut wrote:

Unless I overlooked something, I think you're sitting at 1195/1250 points. I'd add in an extra Grey Hunter to at least 2 of the Rhinos so that you can get that second free special weapon. You'd still be at 1225 so you have a decent chunk of points to play with (25). Maybe throw on Extra Armor on some Rhinos too?

Tactically you guys can have some real fun. I believe your GK ally is walking up the board while you are mounted. That gives you a few options, from screening his infantry and rushing ahead, to staying in the back and diving where needed. Should be a fun match up to play against you guys, wish I was anywhere near you to participate!

AH! You are right! Woo now i get the extra hunter but sense the battle leader is going in a rhino i wont be able to add a hunter to the second squad which should give me 40 extra points and then both of the rhinos get extra armor and still have 10 points left