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Good morning fellow Dakka Dakka people,

Don't you wish they'd change the fantasy section to be called Twang Twang or something? Whoosh Bang, maybe? Swish Clunk?

Anyway - a friend and I are getting back into Warhammer after playing a lot in our youth, 10+ years ago. We've read the rules, pored over the army lists and read many battle reports so we are familiar with the environment, but I'm curious as to everybody else's opinion on the best combination of armies for doubles tournaments, which is the thing we're really wanting to get into.

He wants to play Skaven, in fact I'd say he's 95% certain he'll be playing Skaven. I know they have the special rule (along with Dark Elves) for being dastardly bastards meaning that perhaps you won't get the character-sharing possibilities within an alliance, but we think they're strong enough to compensate for that. This leaves me with the problem of finding the perfect partner army. Skaven can tick a lot of boxes for doubles format, it seems. They have powerful magic, decent artillery and access to throw-away tar pit units like slaves. We had considered me using ranged Tomb Kings (Asp arrow spam and Screaming Skull Catapults) but that's wavering slightly now that it's been revealed that the TK character that buffs the arrows is prohibitively expensive for this format.

I'd love to hear any and all suggestion on a complimentary army for me to use for doubles, with the points limit being either 1000/1500pts per player, so 2000/3000pts total. The tournaments will use the standard alliance table from the BRB, so TK and Ogres are neutral, the other races are obviously good/evil by description.

Much appreciated.

-Tantras

Seeing as you'll end up with a desperate alliance eventually you'll need to both have good madic, either way skaven tar pitting goes well with killy units and even though they have a few of their own getting some more is allways good. So i suggest going for a more elite army like DE, WoC, DoC or Ogres armies who can add a lot of punch to go with his tarpits while still being able to manuever between his big blocks.

Edit: Lizardmen and brets could do it too but it would be a travesty IMO

is there a list for what can team with what

Battlecannon it phil wrote:is there a list for what can team with what

The rules for alliances in the BRB are all there is and they allow anyone to ally, i just pointed out the unlikelyhood of certain rces to cooperate with skaven flyff wise.

I would say dwarfs would be a good choice as they have a very good choice of ranged weapons.

Skaven and Dwarves go very well together. High Elves and Dwarves too.

Just need to cover the other army's weakness.

Skaven and Dwarves aren't a legal combo unfortunately. Good-aligned armies can align with other good-aligned armies, evil with evil, and TK and Ogres with anyone.

Dwarves are good, but as per the BRB if your ally isn't also playing Dwarves, you lose your innate dispel dice.

I guess what I'm really looking for is the best army to compliment Skaven. They don't have many (any?) elite infantry, so I might have to take something with a punch and rely on my partner to provide tar-pits.

Well, if you're playing Skaven, ogres could work well. You tarpit and he bullcharges the flanks.

Cerebrium wrote:Well, if you're playing Skaven, ogres could work well. You tarpit and he bullcharges the flanks.

That's actually quite an interesting idea. I've barely looked at the Ogre book. I wonder what you can get for 1000pts.

About 14 models?

Tantras wrote:Skaven and Dwarves aren't a legal combo unfortunately. Good-aligned armies can align with other good-aligned armies, evil with evil, and TK and Ogres with anyone.

It is a legal combo, unless you have some house rule.
You really should take a better look at the alliance rules.

HoverBoy wrote:

Tantras wrote:Skaven and Dwarves aren't a legal combo unfortunately. Good-aligned armies can align with other good-aligned armies, evil with evil, and TK and Ogres with anyone.

It is a legal combo, unless you have some house rule.
You really should take a better look at the alliance rules.

Oh right? I don't have them to hand, but it's absolutely possible I misread something. Do opposite aligned forces just start off on the lowest level of alliance or something?

Yup desperate alliance, it's all explained quite clearly.

Totally missed that... Somehow! Well... That opens thing up a bit then!