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Are chaos daemons actually any good? I like the fluff ans 'unusualness' behind them but there is a lot of bad stuff about them going round on the internet. What's your opinion?

It really does depend on a few factors. Against GK any daemon force will suffer, unless you take a few Khornate daemons to try to stop the GK's psychic chicanery.

As for other armies, well the fact that with an all Daemon force you have to deepstrike everything is both a blessing and a curse.

Of course all this is assuming that you mean Daemons on their own or when paired up with CSM. Paired up with a CSM force, the Daemons can add a good bit of punch to your CC troops.
The mini's are great too.

They suffer in the current meta. The don't have any reliable or cheap anti armor shooting, which presents a serious problem for them.

They can't knock people out of their rhinos to assault them, they have to assault the vehicles first which takes up valuable turns.

It is kind of up in the air how popular GK's and GK strike squads will be, but if they become prevalent it will all but kill the book.

They can actually still be a very competitive and powerful army in the hands of the right person it seems.
It won't be easy for you, but if you feel you're a good enough general, then by all means go for it!

They're not exactly uncompetitive either; they have some really powerful units and in non-competitive play can be as good as any other army.

Whilst its true they have their weak points (anti-tank amongst them), they're not as bad as many seem to make out IMHO. They can be very good if used properly and average otherwise IMHO.

They're difficult to use certainly, but i've had great success with mine (though not played any GK yet)

You have great anti tank - fiends, take a squad or 2, it helps.

Also you can avoid the meta in some ways - take DP's and suddenly all that AP1 is wasted

I've fought them a lot. They're interesting to fight because of their deployment, but an army with all fearless and all invulnerable saves gets kind of old. If you hate flubbing morale tests they could be fun though. It's an army that can do well, but doesn't astound me very often. There are some nasty units in there though, like Bloodcrushers and Fateweaver.

In a strictly competitive sense. No. Mech armies, any army with a large number of poison weapons, leaf-blower type armies, and Grey Knights can wipe the floor with them in a competitive scene.

Ive been told that running Fateweaver with a max of Blood Crusher is extremely difficult for an opponent to deal with. I've never tried it, but looking and the rules and how they could work together, i could imagine it being rather competitive.

They are not competitive. You have AT spread across 3 units, and that is it. You might do well at local tournaments with them since you are more likely to face newbies who either don't have transports, or get out of their transports early to fight you.

Don't be fooled by the results of adepticon, especially with GKs in play now. Daemons will have a hell of a time against mech and praying for newbs or non-mech armies is not a good strategy.

But while they are not competitive, they are VERY dangerous. Once a demons unit gets in close combat, they will wipe the floor with everything short of dedicated close combat units. Since you are demons, you have more dedicated close combat units than your typical opponent, so you won't lose that war.

Unless you are playing grey knights.

If your beginner I'd say no. They're deployment can be a hassle for even an experianced player- you try losing all your units to impassible terrain and being within 6' of an enemy unit- and if care even a little for fluff then the average daemon player's lists is going to be an irk for you. That they are fearless and almost always get a save, plus having a few alright close combat units are positives, but personally they're just far too beardy and really I just look at anyone who plays them to be a bit too much of a power gamer-ie "that" guy. =/

Wyrmalla wrote:If your beginner I'd say no. They're deployment can be a hassle for even an experianced player- you try losing all your units to impassible terrain and being within 6' of an enemy unit- and if care even a little for fluff then the average daemon player's lists is going to be an irk for you. That they are fearless and almost always get a save, plus having a few alright close combat units are positives, but personally they're just far too beardy and really I just look at anyone who plays them to be a bit too much of a power gamer-ie "that" guy. =/

Bad experiences with demons much?

ivangterrace wrote:

Wyrmalla wrote:If your beginner I'd say no. They're deployment can be a hassle for even an experianced player- you try losing all your units to impassible terrain and being within 6' of an enemy unit- and if care even a little for fluff then the average daemon player's lists is going to be an irk for you. That they are fearless and almost always get a save, plus having a few alright close combat units are positives, but personally they're just far too beardy and really I just look at anyone who plays them to be a bit too much of a power gamer-ie "that" guy. =/

Bad experiences with demons much?

...I just know a lot of asses that play them is all. They're one of the newer GW armies aimed at pumping out ridiculous stat lines and fluff, and thus they don't really sit too well with me. The Forge World miniatures for the range are alright however, but the knockoffs of the horrible 2nd editions designs that litter the army are a step backwards. =/

[quote=WyrmallaIf your beginner I'd say no. They're deployment can be a hassle for even an experianced player- you try losing all your units to impassible terrain and being within 6' of an enemy unit- and if care even a little for fluff then the average daemon player's lists is going to be an irk for you. That they are fearless and almost always get a save, plus having a few alright close combat units are positives, but personally they're just far too beardy and really I just look at anyone who plays them to be a bit too much of a power gamer-ie "that" guy.

It doesn't help that daemons are user hostile, for you have to make 2-3 stage plans for your units all the time. If you manage to use them right daemons can be very effective but in the end daemons are more of a fun army than a competitive army. I hear daemons make a good "monkey wrench" in tournaments though. It only takes one bloodthirster blindsiding you for you to always prepare for one then on.