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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/17 08:28:51
Subject: Land Rader Hellstreak
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Worthiest of Warlock Engineers
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ok I origionaly thought of this as a saught of support tank for the marines. i think of it as a tactical missile tank picking of infrantry and tanks with its missile launchers. Land Rader Hellstreak heavy support BS F S R 4 14 14 14 arment 2 sponson missile launchers 1 hull/pintle mounted missile launcher. upgrades tactical targeting array 15pts all ML are twin linked Hellstreak rockets 15pts these are the extremely powerful incindary rockets that the land raider is named after R48 S6 AP3 heavy 1 large blast Electro missiles 20pts these are used to take out enemy vehcles with devestating efficiency R48 S- AP1 heavy 1 blast all vehcles hit are automaticaly penertrated. non vehcle units are unharmed with the exeption of necrons whom are wounded on a 5+
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/05/17 11:08:17
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/17 08:42:57
Subject: Land Rader Hellstreak
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Foxy Wildborne
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The name sounds like something on the back of your underpants after eating Mexican.
3 ML feels a bit undergunned for a LR chassis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/17 10:34:57
Subject: Re:Land Rader Hellstreak
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Worthiest of Warlock Engineers
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Ok have added some upgrades.
Oh and ive never had a mexican BUT i have had an extreme indian once...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/17 10:50:46
Subject: Land Rader Hellstreak
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Fixture of Dakka
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Points cost? Transport capacity? special rules? eligibility?
I'd advise that you give us something to work with rather than apparently just posting an idea that pops into your head...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/17 14:08:09
Subject: Land Rader Hellstreak
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The electro missiles sound quite overpowered; auto-penetrating every vehicle they hit with twin-linked (who won't buy that upgrade for the chance of wiping out every vehicle you see?) BS4?
Making it glance on a 2-4 and penetrate on a 5-6 evens the odds a bit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/18 21:58:53
Subject: Land Rader Hellstreak
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Stealthy Dark Angels Scout with Shotgun
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I agree that the auto pen seems strong.
As to the main armaments. 2 twin-linked tyhpoon missile launchers, 1 per side.
Replace the front mounted missile launcher with the "Hellstreak Missile Launcher", which may launch frag and krak missiles similar to a typhoon launcher, or it may fire a single hellstreak missile. With an upgrade to also add the EMP missiles.
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As for transport capacity, perhaps 6 models, as I see this as a command bunker sort of vehicle, or perhaps a support vehicle, not the kind you'd roll up a ton of troops into a breach or what not.
Edit 2:
Advanced multi-targeting matrix would be a nice upgrade, allowing each weapon system to shoot at a different target.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/18 22:33:17
Subject: Re:Land Rader Hellstreak
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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I think this should be mounted on a Predator chassis, not Land Raider. Predator Hellstreak BS: 4 Armor: F: 13 S: 11 R: 10 Turret Weapon: Two Twin Linked Missile Launchers(Fired as a single weapon) Sponson Weapons: Deathwind Missile Launchers Rules: Special Issue Missiles In addition to the standard Frag and Krak missiles, the Hellstreak Predator may fire either Hellstreak Missiles or Thunderbolt Missiles(See below) Each launcher must fire the same type of missile, and only from the launcher, not the Deathwind launchers. Hellstreak Missiles Range: 48" S: X AP: - Type: Ignores Cover, Large Blast, Poisoned(4+), Offensive *Offensive: Though they have no Strength value, Hellstreak Missiles do not count as Defensive weapons. Thunderbolt Missiles Range: 48" S: X AP: 1 Type: Thunderbolt Thunderbolt: This weapon has no effect on Infantry. However, when targeting vehicles, ignore standard armor penetration, and roll a d6. On a 1, the hit fails to penetrate. On a 2, 3, 4, or 5, the hit is a Glancing Hit, and on a 6, the hit is a Penetrating Hit.
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This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2011/05/21 06:49:54
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/19 18:18:33
Subject: Land Rader Hellstreak
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Dr Robert's suggestions are far more balanced, and I would personally play against his suggestion quite readily in a playtest range of ~125-150 points to see how good it actually is, although I suspect that the large blast poisoned missiles are too good (fire all three on the move since they're defensive, slaughter whole units of light infantry like orks and bugs....should probably only be small blasts)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/19 19:21:41
Subject: Land Rader Hellstreak
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Irked Necron Immortal
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I like Dr. Robert's Idea a little more, It seems better suited for a predator hull. However I'm thinking that the specialized missiles are a bit much.
I would put the Hellfire missile as an upgraded Frag missile instead look more like:
Hellfire missile
Range: 48" S: 4 AP: 5 Type: large blast, ignores cover.
The thunderbolt I'm weary about since it's a dedicated tank killer. I think auto-glance would be the best for that type of missile.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/21 00:00:17
Subject: Re:Land Rader Hellstreak
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
California
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Gave slight nerfs to both my missiles, swapped the weapons on the Hellstreak.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/05/21 06:50:13
Dirty Harry wrote:I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk? |
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