Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

So the other day a friend and I are playing Marines vs. Orks and as he goes to make a shooting roll with a mob of boyz he says that even though only one of his models has line of sight to the unit he's firing on, all of the models in the unit get to fire. I disagreed and said only the one model got to fire, and we ended up having a roll-off to see who was right (he won, not that it mattered as he didn't manage a hit during that roll).

Anyway, my question is who was actually correct? Can all of the models in a unit fire if only a few or even one can see the target, or can only those models with Line of sight fire?

Every model that wants to fire must have LOS to the target unit. Full stop, no room for interpretation on this.

He may have been getting confused with the fact that, even if only one model in the target unit can be seen, all models in the target unit can suffer wounds, an explicit change to 4th ed.

Nos has it,he was probably getting 2 rules mixed up,i know i still do.

Thanks for the help. I hadn't really thought about what his line of thinking was, but what you guys said makes sense in terms of what he was thinking.

Also I think worth mentioning that the same thing goes for range (unless I'm mistaken). Only models that are in range and have LOS can fire. So if the front half of your unit is in range but the back half is not, only the front half can fire.

These rules are covered on page 16 + 17 of the rulebook

You're correct - only models in LOS and range can fire.