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Hey all thsi saturday i have a 1500 pt match vs orks. The orks beig used are by a friend and the army he is using is mine, so i know all the units he has access to (whcih evidently is every unit in the dex lol)

Here is the list i have chosen:

1000 pts
For orks
Hq

Farseer – 130
Spirit stones, doom, fortune

Elites

Striking scorpions x 10 – 202
Exarch – chainsabres, shadowstrike, stalker

Troops

Dire avengers x 10 – 152
Exarch with dual catapults, bladestorm

Guardian squad x 16 (17) – 179
Warlock - embolden – spiritseer
Scatter laser platform

Fast attack

Swooping Hawks x 7 –179
Exarch with sunrifle and intercept

Vyper squadron x 3 – 315
All armed with scatter lasers, holo-fields and shuriken cannons

Heavy support

Nightspinner – 160
Spirit stones, holo-fields, twin-linked doomweaver, twin-linked shuriken catapults

Wraithlord – 120
Wraithblade, scatter laser

Warwalker – 65
2 x scatter lasers, spirit stones


Total – 1502

The units most likely to see due to his previous games are 2 x 20 boys, warboss on bike with 5 bikers (i think he might run 2 groups of 5 both led by biker bosses this game as his bike squad and warboss took out a tomb stalker their last game), lootas and a def dred. Please note he may surprise me and take something compleely different, but thats a guess lol

So what ya all think of my list? I have taken the lords as they are hard as nails to wound, the vypers and swooping hawks have ranges of 24 and 36 and move fast which allow them to manouver around him and dakka him. Whilst the scorpions n war walker come on from the table edges, providfing more support. The avengers are to set you and unleash their bladestorm whilst the guardians can hold an objective and pop shot their scatter laser until in range of catapults.

Please also note that we do not know what deployment type is or mission type, so this is a list designed for both types. Also il be posting up another list which is for a 3 way match, vs orks and night lords. Stay tuned

Thanks

Ok. Firstly I would change fortune on the farseer for guide, cause that's going to help you a lot more than fortune.

Also where is the farseer going? With the DA? Not with the scorpions I hope.

I would recommend getting a WS with dual Shuricannons or Scatter LAsers depending on what points you have left afterwards. Get that for the DA and sticking the farseer with them.

Why so many guardians? 10 is enough. And I suppose the WL is following them. I would recommend conceal instead of embolden, but that's really personal choice. many people will disagree with me.

Hawks... loose them really. Even against hordes, they are terrible.

With the points from the hawks and the extra guardians, I think you should have enough points for a second DA squad in shurikannon WS.

Vypers are good, but holofields are way too expensive to spend on them.

I like the Night Spinner, good choice against orks there. Do you really need spirit stones for it though? I would loose them and save the points for the Spirit stones on the WS.

Now, I know that WL is going to follow the guardians around, but he will just end up getting pinned down in CC, or destroyed by a power klaw. I would recommend loosing him for more WW. You can also loose the spirit stones on the WW, but again that's personal choice. If you plan on getting your walkers in CC though, be prepared for a klaw to ruin your dreams. trust me, I tried it.

If you have enough points after all that, try to get a guide seer. Simple, only guide as a power. Stick him with the guardian squad in the back field with the WW, preferably on an objective. That is only if you loose the WL. If you don't want to loose him, I would recommend getting a ML if you have the points, because you are really lacking anti tank right now. From what you've told me, it seems your friend likes horde, but you never know!

I wish you luck my eldar friend. teach those orks a lesson!

edit: consider a biting blade instead of chainsabres, that extra srength bonus can really ruin a warboss' day...