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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot




Murrieta, CA

I've been reading through the Dark Angels Codex and noticed that I've noticed that Samuel, Master of Ravenwing, has a jetbike w/ a plasma cannon and twin linked storm-bolters. My question is thus, does his plasma cannon have to roll for gets hot?. Additionally, I've noticed that he does not have the Independant character special rule, did I miss something? If not, this might make him a bit harder to use in my Dual Wing Dark Angels list I'm working on.

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Sickening Carrion




Wa. state

Yes, he will have to roll for 'Gets Hot'
The Jet bike is not a vehicle.
Samuel does not have the IC rule and may never be joined.

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I don't think plasma cannons get hot as they are blast weapons hence you cannot roll a 1 when shooting it..
   
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UK

Plasma Cannons do roll for Gets Hot!

Gets Hot! blasts roll as described on page 31 of the RB.

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Phototoxin wrote:I don't think plasma cannons get hot as they are blast weapons hence you cannot roll a 1 when shooting it..


You may want to read the rules for 'gets hot' and 'blast weapons' there again. You roll an additional dice for blast weapons that get hot.

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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot




Mesa, AZ

Thaylen wrote:I've been reading through the Dark Angels Codex and noticed that I've noticed that Samuel, Master of Ravenwing, has a jetbike w/ a plasma cannon and twin linked storm-bolters. My question is thus, does his plasma cannon have to roll for gets hot?. Additionally, I've noticed that he does not have the Independant character special rule, did I miss something? If not, this might make him a bit harder to use in my Dual Wing Dark Angels list I'm working on.

Yes, the Plasma Cannon has to roll for Gets Hot! Since it's a Blast weapon you must roll a D6 before placing the blast marker, if you roll a 1 the weapon does not fire and you suffer a wound. otherwise the shot is resolved as normal.
Sammael is not an Independent Character, therfore he is a unit of a single model. Just like the Ravenwing Attack Bike.

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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot




Murrieta, CA

What are your thoughts on using Sam as a speeder? My Current list looks something like;

Belial
Sammuel

4x Deathwing
(2x Hammers, 1x Lighting Claw, Chainfist, Assault Cannon)
(2x Hammers, 1x Lighting Claw, Chainfist, Cyclone Launcher)
(2x Hammers, 2x Lightning Claws, Cyclone Launcher)
(3x Hammers, 1x Hammer [Carrying Deathwing Banner], 1x Lightning Claw [Deathwing Apothecary])

2x Ravenwing Attack Squadron
(Sgt w/ Pwr Fist, 2x Meltaguns, 3x Extra Bikers, Attack Bike w/ Multi-Melta)
(Sgt w/ Pwr Fist[Carrying Ravenwing Banner] , 2x Meltaguns [One Designated as Ravenwing Apothecary], 3x Extra Bikers, Attack Bike w/ Multi-Melta)

I'm kinda running a refused flank not bringing any armor to the table. While I'm at it, any advice on improving the list?

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I'd suggest tactics subforum, I'll ask a mod to move
   
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or take a look at this: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/383959.page

a full ravenwing army that works pretty good!

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