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AllSeeingSkink wrote: It seems like for the Baneblade, the hull lascannon turrets are 2 shots, but for the Kratos instead of giving it 2 shots in the profile, they have one shot in the profile and say "two" in the loadout options.
So it's weird, but I guess the end result is consistent?
Effectively in any shooting phase only 1 of the side sponsons will fire, but if it's a hull turret both of them can fire.
It seems like kratos and baneblade are a bit weird in terms of sponsons.
Though that one had horrendous rule error they did. No rend was used. Caused "bit" havoc when solar auxilia doesn't use one if it's main strength at all.
Yeah. Have noticed there are still quite alot of errors people do when playing. Understandable as the game is still brand new. Here's some of the issues I've witnessed:
• People never seem to use point defence weapons during their movement? This can be potentially very powerful against infantry, assuming your vehicles are close enough
• People seem very confused about walkers - many players mistakenly treat them as vehicles, when they are not. Dreads have the ARMOURED trait, so get to reroll saves against light weapons, but Light AT should still introduce AP mod to them
• Tactical dets with attached Assault stands can issue separate orders for the Assault models, but they must remain within 6" of the main detachment
• Tactical dets with Terminator stands assigned to them gain the IMPLACABLE rule, so will not fail morale when losing CC. Also, terminators have "Accurate" so they will choose which targets they remove from successful shooting damage
• Ogryns rending
those are just some of the things that come to mind right now
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Thought "accurate" was just re-rolling failed to hit rolls, its "precise" that allows the firing player to pick the targets
implacable though is a good reason to add a terminator pair to an assault infantry unit
the bit on assault troops is interesting, not sure how useful unless you add a fair few to a unit though, but its certainly a thing
point defence when moving I agree is good, likely not used much as "internet wisdom" is take anti tank weapons not heavy bolters. I think all armoured detachments should have at least one with some point defence capability
need to get my Ogryn on the table, however the SA currently, infantry at least, seem to be rear area defence troops until they get a decent transport option. Ogryn in the backfield to deter deep strike seems nice. they can just sit on charge orders out of sight
have noted errors in rules and unspecified "house rules" seems to be a common thing in battle reports
not seen stuff with precise as yet, think its going to be nasty when it arrives though
its a good list of observations, its also why watching such to learn the game is a bad idea, better to just stick a few models down and ask yourself "now what can they do?" and just walk through stuff
leopard wrote: Thought "accurate" was just re-rolling failed to hit rolls, its "precise" that allows the firing player to pick the targets
implacable though is a good reason to add a terminator pair to an assault infantry unit
the bit on assault troops is interesting, not sure how useful unless you add a fair few to a unit though, but its certainly a thing
point defence when moving I agree is good, likely not used much as "internet wisdom" is take anti tank weapons not heavy bolters. I think all armoured detachments should have at least one with some point defence capability
need to get my Ogryn on the table, however the SA currently, infantry at least, seem to be rear area defence troops until they get a decent transport option. Ogryn in the backfield to deter deep strike seems nice. they can just sit on charge orders out of sight
have noted errors in rules and unspecified "house rules" seems to be a common thing in battle reports
Even Contemptors have point defence bolters, everybody seems to forget they exist
I've been thinking about point defence a bit lately. I think its one of those things that only becomes really meaningful when you get enough dice for it. 4 Sicarans with HB sponsons get 16 dice of point defence, anything less than 10 dice of point defence doesnt feel too reliable
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tneva82 wrote: Why assault marines in tac det can get own orders?
When added to a tactical det, they gain the INDEPENDENT (pg 91) keyword, on their own det they do not.. Unless I misunderstood how that particular keyword works? Possible, I mean the rule takes a full page FFS
quote:
"If the controlling player wishes, each Independent Unit may be issued its own Order during the Order phase - this can be a different Order from the rest of its Detachment. In addition, models within the Independent Unit may choose a different target than the rest of their Detachment when firing - all models within an Independent Unit must fire at the same target unless specified otherwise.
Though it has its own Order, the Independent Unit is still part of the larger Detachment, and thus activates and reveals its Order at the same time, is issued with a Fall Back Order if the Detachment is, etc. If the Detachment calls an Overwatch, an Independent Unit only discards its Advance Order or First Fire Order if one of its models fired during the Overwatch, not if other models from the Detachment did so."
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Small heads-up, a buch of LI stuff just got restocked in the webstore including the core box and the bases.
Also the Administratum sector now shows "sold out online" instead of the "temporarily out of stock" before so doesn't seem like that one will be coming back. Of course the individual sets will be coming but a discount is always nice.
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I shudder to think how much a decked out LI board would cost now.. 360€ on the floor tiles alone, plus 50€ for each building kit, which you probably need at least 4-6 plus some ruins..
Makes the armies themselves feel affordable doesnt it
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Say, would anyone else on this board be interested in having metallic tokens for LI?
I am looking into having metallic order tokens made, and the volumes required for custom designs is actually quite reasonable (I've found one place that can produce any amount from 50 pieces and up).. Although the smallest size they offer is 1,5" (38.1mm) - do you reckon that's too large to be practical? Whats the diameter of the GW paper tokens? 25mm?
How many tokens do you suppose one would typically need for a 3000 points army? 20? 30? 40?
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