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So could a hellion (or group of hellions) use a Stun Claw during their Hit-and-Run move to grab an enemy IC and then move off the board, thus eliminating them both? Just something that came up the other day.

The main rule in question here can a unit voluntarily leave the battlefield? I know it has been debated in a couple other threads, but this is somewhat different.

DE players could easily justify the sacrifice of a small unit for an HQ. What do you think/What rules prevent this?

You can not voluntarily move off the board. Covered in the rulebook FAQ.

A better use for them is to grab an IC with a small unit of hellions and zoom him off to somewhere exposed, then let him kill them off in his assault phase.

Then shoot the bejollies out of him on your turn

Ascalam wrote:A better use for them is to grab an IC with a small unit of hellions and zoom him off to somewhere exposed, then let him kill them off in his assault phase.

Then shoot the bejollies out of him on your turn

Watched some one drop Tooled out wolf lord (with thunderwolf mount) onto a top of a building. He couldn't get down, Dark eldar player then left him there to watch as the rest of the army got slaughtered.

that's evil... LOL

VERY dark eldar though

How did they do that? Unless the Hellion rules allow you to ignore movement rules, the top of a building may be passable to jump packers but not to a mixed unit of jump pack and non-jump pack

nosferatu1001 wrote:How did they do that? Unless the Hellion rules allow you to ignore movement rules, the top of a building may be passable to jump packers but not to a mixed unit of jump pack and non-jump pack

While technically not correct rules wise our group normally plays that you can have model on top of building (for example thunder fire cannons) If the model starts the game there. Of course they're then stuck there for the rest of the game.

Also the unit isn't mixed (as such) they're all jump infantry ... its just that the wolflords comes along for the ride

I love it.

My group plays similar rules. if the unit is there when they are deployed its fine. We just assume they used a ladeer or were airdropped there before the battle began. Like you said the obvious downside is that they can't move for the entire game.

You just have to use common sense (ie: No Basilisks balanced on top of buildings)

Praxiss wrote:You just have to use common sense (ie: No Basilisks balanced on top of buildings)

As if Command Chenkov would have any trouble arranging that... "Guardsmen! Basilisk! Dismantle, move to roof, assemble!"

nosferatu1001 wrote:How did they do that? Unless the Hellion rules allow you to ignore movement rules, the top of a building may be passable to jump packers but not to a mixed unit of jump pack and non-jump pack

I have to agree with nos here. That shouldn't be allowed as it is breaking the movement rules for the Cavalry models, I suppose the argument can be made but that is some major waac

OverwatchCNC wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:How did they do that? Unless the Hellion rules allow you to ignore movement rules, the top of a building may be passable to jump packers but not to a mixed unit of jump pack and non-jump pack

I have to agree with nos here. That shouldn't be allowed as it is breaking the movement rules for the Cavalry models, I suppose the argument can be made but that is some major waac

Meh ... maybe its not legal but it definitely wasn't a win at all cost match. I still see it as legal as our lot play that the top of building are open terrain and any models (just no tanks) can be placed there. I guess t does depend on how you set up terrain and its rules.

I wouldnt call it WAAC but definitely hilarious.

Not to mention if they snag a cavalry unit don't they than have to move at the slowest models speed? Which would also limit use of Jump packs to get up, etc as not all have them.

Hit and Run goes a random distance, regardless of the speed of the model that has it.