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Why did you never start or alternately stop playing/collecting Heavy Gear?
Never heard of it... what's Heavy Gear?
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Couldn't find any opponents to play against.
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps






Powered Infantry Loading Utility Mainframe

Purely Improbable Light Undersized Mech

Probably Impossible to Look at Until Manufactured

Anyways... as I posted on my printing/painting thread, this is not a Gear, but it's totally a gear-adjacent design:



It's a model from the Anvil Digital Forge Patreon, and comes with multiple high tech/low tech parts, a gun designer that allows you to create dozens of variants, fully poseable arms and legs and a fully detailed/openable cockpit, with pilot options.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut





Glorious Nation of U.S.S.A!

Looks great! It reminds me of those infantry mechs that I posted a few months back from the youtube anime.
   
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Been Around the Block






Well, inspired by this thread reaching page 135, I went away and trolled a few acronym lists and military abbreviations and came up with a selection to choose from (bold are the ones I think work best):

Pace; Pathfinder; Patrol; Personnel; Physical; Platform; Powered; Prototype.

Increased; Individual; Integrated;Interoperable.

Land; Layer; Light; Load; Logical.

Ultimate; Unified; Unit; Unitized; Universal; Upgraded.

Maneuver; Military; Mission; Mobility; Mount; Movement.

PILUM suit: Prototype Individual Load Unitized Maneuver suit.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut





Glorious Nation of U.S.S.A!

Please Immediately Loadup on Unbalanced Miniatures?

But that's just from my experiences playtesting the Paxton factor book with Salem (I think that was the lead playtester's and purely Paxton player's name).
   
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 warboss wrote:
Please Immediately Loadup on Unbalanced Miniatures?

But that's just from my experiences playtesting the Paxton factor book with Salem (I think that was the lead playtester's and purely Paxton player's name).


Yep, Saleem was all that and a bag of chips ^^.

...but we didn't get to test the pilum infantry. That was added afterwards, or at least, after I got fed up and stopped playtesting.


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 warboss wrote:
Looks great! It reminds me of those infantry mechs that I posted a few months back from the youtube anime.

Obsolete, right? Yeah, I agree, it's a similar vibe.

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Ah I sense a tale of munchkin play testing mayhem; a story vast with min-maxing* favourite factions to beat all into submission.

*NB: not anti min-maxing, I'm just an equal opportunity min-maxer who thinks that all the toys should be the best toys.

Ashley
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 Paint it Pink wrote:
Ah I sense a tale of munchkin play testing mayhem; a story vast with min-maxing* favourite factions to beat all into submission.

*NB: not anti min-maxing, I'm just an equal opportunity min-maxer who thinks that all the toys should be the best toys.


More like a story of an extreme incompent in charge of things he doesn't understand or care about.

Virtus in extremis 
   
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 Paint it Pink wrote:
Ah I sense a tale of munchkin play testing mayhem; a story vast with min-maxing* favourite factions to beat all into submission.

*NB: not anti min-maxing, I'm just an equal opportunity min-maxer who thinks that all the toys should be the best toys.


Nah, just some awkward nonsensical conversations satirized below.

Spoiler:
Me: I'd like to suggest this loadout.
Other Guy: No. That's way overpowered.
Me: I literally copied it from your own work that you just published for your favorite faction.
Other Guy: It's totally different. In the fluff, my guys are super cool.
*** hours later ***
Other Guy: And they have *insert unrelated rule that has no overlap in game* which totally balances it out, m'kay?



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 Albertorius wrote:
 warboss wrote:
Looks great! It reminds me of those infantry mechs that I posted a few months back from the youtube anime.

Obsolete, right? Yeah, I agree, it's a similar vibe.


Yup, that's the one! I considered getting some of those model kits but they were mostly out of stock (or scalper priced on ebay) at the time. They were way out of scale with anything I had that wouldn't have stopped me, lol. Fortunately, no access to it did.

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I certainly had to resist the temptation of picking up their VOTOMS crossover minis ^^.
   
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 Albertorius wrote:
I certainly had to resist the temptation of picking up their VOTOMS crossover minis ^^.


Isn't it exciting though!?! I can't believe it took 25 years but we're finally getting the VOTOMS and Heavy Gear crossover that we've all been waiting for. I wonder if they'll adjust the scales to better match the Hunter/Jager chassis to the classic Scopedog on the tabletop.
   
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 warboss wrote:
 Albertorius wrote:
I certainly had to resist the temptation of picking up their VOTOMS crossover minis ^^.


Isn't it exciting though!?! I can't believe it took 25 years but we're finally getting the VOTOMS and Heavy Gear crossover that we've all been waiting for. I wonder if they'll adjust the scales to better match the Hunter/Jager chassis to the classic Scopedog on the tabletop.


What have I missed? I saw the models, and the series, and the VOTOMS homage, but are there rules, wargaming miniatures coming out too?

Ashley
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Well, we've only seen prototypes so far, but it looks like the work has been ongoing for some time, now.
   
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I hope they can get the full poseability at 1/144 scale with pre-assembled and painted models. It's a tough job but if anyone can do it then Robert can!


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In case anyone didn't look at the calendar today, it was April 1st and the above was a lighthearted joke.

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I didn't respond because I couldn't cope with April Fools day this year.

Ashley
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Glorious Nation of U.S.S.A!

No worries. Sometimes an April Fools joke is the only thing potentially newsworthy for Heavy Gear that week.
   
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Fireknife Shas'el






I'd just be happy with Peace River is they actually had some Target Designators. Seriously, here's the list:

Skirmisher TAG (CMD variant) TD1
Dragonfly (hopper) TD1 (available to N/S)
Elan (jeep) TD0 (available to S)
Spotter Infantry TD1 (available to everybody)

   
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Have they taken them out of, like, all the recon Gears then?
   
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 Albertorius wrote:
Have they taken them out of, like, all the recon Gears then?


Pretty much. The stock Skirmisher never had one. In Locked and Loaded if you had the option for Skirmishers in a squad you could usually add Target Designators to 2 of them. Now in the Living Rulebook it's just the Skirmisher TAG, gear-wise, and as a CMD model with ECCM and Satlink it probably has better things to do than TD stuff, and it can't even be added in a Support Unit.

Oh and I forgot to add the Recon Drone to the list of TD models for Peace River.


   
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But how about all the Cheetahs, Iggies and the like? A whole lot of those had TD, pointly the main versions...

I mean, it was one of their main roles!

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Panama

They still have them.

One important consideration, you may have a command model in a non commander job. So the TAG Skirmisher may be part of a support unit or simply another of the models in the combat group, the ECCM and SatUp makes it a solid forward observer as it is very hard to jam.
   
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 Pointman wrote:


One important consideration, you may have a command model in a non commander job. So the TAG Skirmisher may be part of a support unit or simply another of the models in the combat group, the ECCM and SatUp makes it a solid forward observer as it is very hard to jam.


Sure, but commanders cost extra (aside from CGLs), on top of the TAG variant costing extra, and you CANNOT have a commander in a Support Unit. LRB pg58 A.2.0, 5G. SUs may not have commanders.

And if you want that TD in a FS unit, you have to take the Chieftain Variant (+1 point) on top of TAG (+1 point), and you might as well take 2 of these because one SatUp is less useful than 2 SatUps. And if you're using a SK or ST unit, forget about it. And the ST units are where most of the guided weapons live. Sure, there are non-gear options but they're usually pretty fragile (Drones/Elans), slow (Spotter Teams) or expensive (Dragonfly, which has its own Guided weapons to use). Of these choices, only Spotter Teams have the Comms:1 trait that removes the need for an EW roll, but I probably have to buy transports to get the Spotter Teams to where I would want them.

But if I want to field Anti-Tank Red Bulls or Cataphracts or Coyotes (and I do!), there's really no good options for TD unless I want to drop 36TV on a full RC unit with 2 Skirmisher TAGs (CGL and 2iC) and 2 vanilla Skirmishers. It's VERY GOOD, mind you, but most other armies can do the same in Support Units for 20TV, or get 4 TD carrying units for roughly that cost instead of 2.




   
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I don't think I can add much to a discussion about current edition effectiveness, unfortunately ^^
   
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@John Prins, you can't add commanders on SU, but the model is not a command model, it's just a model.

Commanders can use any model you want, some models are good for commanders because of the comms and stuff, but the TAG models are just models, not commanders.

So, you may add any model with a TAG (TD and extra sauce) to any unit.

They are a bit more expensive compared to other factions (specially the cheap ferret and anolis) but Peace river have that extra cost for extra abilities, and they are objectively better than the cheaper TD platforms, with the ECCM alone they are very solid and then add ECM+ for added staying power. they are comparable to other factions ECCM plus ECM+ platforms.

It's just the way Peace River roll now....unless you want allies or badlanders in your force for cheaper options of course.
   
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 warboss wrote:
No worries. Sometimes an April Fools joke is the only thing potentially newsworthy for Heavy Gear that week.

That's okay. For your viewing pleasure a sneak peak at my latest conversion/rebuild next to the one I did before.

[Thumb - CAS-3-Mod Duo 3.jpg]

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Nicely done! That looks very comprehensive.
   
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Indeed, nicely done. I like the use of the pack gun as I think it's a cool looking design that is unfortunately underused in HG proper due to game mechanics.
   
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 Pointman wrote:
@John Prins, you can't add commanders on SU, but the model is not a command model, it's just a model.

Commanders can use any model you want, some models are good for commanders because of the comms and stuff, but the TAG models are just models, not commanders.

So, you may add any model with a TAG (TD and extra sauce) to any unit.


My understanding is that this is true in the Beta Ruleset, but not the Living Rulebook. Looking at the preview PDF for the 3rd edition HGB on DP9's site, the TAG is just a normal upgrade but it's losing SatUp.

   
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 Albertorius wrote:
Nicely done! That looks very comprehensive.


Thank you. I've been working on taking more pictures for a blog post that should go up this week.

 warboss wrote:
Indeed, nicely done. I like the use of the pack gun as I think it's a cool looking design that is unfortunately underused in HG proper due to game mechanics.


Again, thank you. I like the pack gun too.

Also, I have been working on my rules today, which will when finished, give people the option to use any models they like the look of. Of course, different setting, which may not float peoples boats as much as Terra Nova, which is pretty cool.

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Sorry, not sorry, but I've got to share this review of my novel here. Stunned, and then left squealing with delight.

https://www.zeppjamiesonfiction.com/who-let-the-dawgs-out-a-review-of-bad-dog/#disqus_thread

[Thumb - BDR.jpeg]


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Congrats on the positive review! Possibly stupid question just from skimming it... Is Tachikoma a Japanese name? I'm only familiar with it for GITS robot tanks with cute voices.

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