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After a bit of thinking, i have come up with 3 lists...

eKreoss
Crusader
Vanquisher
Repenter
Vigilant
5 Cinerators
Max Choir
Vassal of menoth

High Executioner Reznik
Crusader
Scrouge of Heresy
Revenger
Vigilant
5 Cinerators
Max Choir
Vassal of menoth

Sorscha
Juggernaut/Beast 09
Destroyer/Black Ivan
Behemoth
Kodiak
5 man-o-war shocktroopers
5 man-o-war shocktroopers
Iron Fang Pikemen With UA
4 Widowmakers

i dont think sorscha could control all those warjacks so any other opinions on warcasters would be great

are these lists good, any opinions would be greatly accepted

YELLOWBLADES wrote:After a bit of thinking, i have come up with 3 lists...

eKreoss
Crusader
Vanquisher
Repenter
Vigilant
5 Cinerators
Max Choir
Vassal of menoth

Kreoss will have trouble running these four 'jacks. Typically an epic
kreoss list fields as many weaponmasters as the person has and
the fire of salvation.

malfred wrote:

YELLOWBLADES wrote:After a bit of thinking, i have come up with 3 lists...

eKreoss
Crusader
Vanquisher
Repenter
Vigilant
5 Cinerators
Max Choir
Vassal of menoth

Kreoss will have trouble running these four 'jacks. Typically an epic
kreoss list fields as many weaponmasters as the person has and
the fire of salvation.

Some thing like this is what he means......
at 25
eKreoss
Fire of Salvation

Max Exemplar Errants with UA
Knights Exemplar
Knights Exemplar

Exemplar Errant Seneschal
At 25 points im at teir 2

For 35 points I add

Max Bastions

Exemplar Errant Seneschal
Knights Exemplar Seneschal (free cause of Teir)
At 35 points im at teir 4

There's absolutely no way pSorscha will be able to control all of those 'jacks. She wants only one 'jack, preferably Beast. If you really want to use that many 'jacks, look into pButcher or pVlad.

In addition, you're sinking way too many points into Shocktroopers. There's absolutely no need in having two units of them. What role were you thinking of having them accomplish?

I agree with eKreoss taking as many weaponmasters as you own. For both the Menoth lists, I would change the choir to a min choir. As for Reznik, I would seriously consider taking the Avatar. With iron agression, it becomes very scary, though you can't move it with witch hound or perdition. Keep the revenger for sure, that way you can perdition/ignite/iron agression while hiding behind the cinerators. Lastly, make sure you have the wrack models to place for when Reznik boxes a warrior model.

AresX8 wrote:There's absolutely no way pSorscha will be able to control all of those 'jacks. She wants only one 'jack, preferably Beast. If you really want to use that many 'jacks, look into pButcher or pVlad.

In addition, you're sinking way too many points into Shocktroopers. There's absolutely no need in having two units of them. What role were you thinking of having them accomplish?

Behemoth Works great with pSorscha As well. and yes thats TOO many STs and jacks. I would highly suggest pEiryss, War Dog and Behemoth or Beast 09 as your jack. add a Marksman to buff your Widowmakers. lets see, 1 unit of STs won't be bad. the Great Bears would be amazing. here ill post my pSorscha list.

pSorscha [5]
-Behemoth 13p
-WarDog 1p
MoW ShockTroopers (L+4) 9p
pEiryss 3p
Gorman 2p
Kell Bailoch 2p
Marksman 2p
Widowmakers 4p
Kayazy Eliminators 3p
39/40p

The STs are my Unit for defense of Sorscha for the most part. behemoth is amazing especially when you can charge one of your units or enemies and then murder it and launch a cannon shot on a stationary caster. you also have a few Snipers to cap thos numbers. the widowmakers could be dropped for Drakhun. my feat turn looks like this. Sorscha moves up with Windrush, maybe moves if needed and feats. ranged shot on the caster if i can otherwise i would have given the Behemoth some focus to the subcortex. if he is out of range, he would get boundless charge. after the caster i move pEiryss and Disruptor bolt the caster to drop focus and get that extra turn of denial. next i start the attack runs. first is behemoth he will position if needed if not aim bonus guarantees the hit. the 2 focus to his subcortex boosts the damage roll. most caster are barely alive after this hit. if by chance i get snake eyes i hope for deviation and boost damage. next i start moving in everything possible to kill the caster. i havn't gotten my Eliminators in and had Drakhun there but charging through models is amazing lol. in the end if i fail the kill most of my opponent is stationary and pEiryss denied focus for that turn. so no shaking stationary. if need be i will use Sorscha's spell to try and make them stationary again and finish the job if not i have plenty of options. however the Eliminators are now a problem in this instance. so i would spell the caster and finish the job with the Eliminators.