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Made in in
[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche






Hyderabad, India

GW has always favored melee weapons over guns for their charaters.  Other than the plasma pistol and psycannon there aren't any useful guns for would be Rambos and Commandos.  So...

(point values are for marines/IG, Inq, puny humans)

Brace of pistols (SM 15/ PH 10)

matched set of bolt pistols, may be fired twice (or 4 times in rapid fire)

Armor Piercing Bolts (SM20/PH15)

make any bolt weapon AP3

Conversion Beamer (SM40/PH35) techmarine/tech priest only

Heavy weapon, gets hot, small blast.  AP1.  1-6" S10, 6+-12" S9, 12+"-18" S8 and so on to S1. 

Gatling Bolter (SM20/PH15)

Bolter, d6 shots.  Heavy weapon range 36" or assault weapon range 18".  Cannot be upgraded with AP bolts.

 


 
   
Made in ca
Regular Dakkanaut




British Columbia, Canada

Wow I'd sure like to have one of those Coversion Beamer things on my Techmarine!

Chuck Norris' calender goes from March 31st straight to April 2nd. No one fools Chuck Norris. 
   
Made in in
[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche






Hyderabad, India

I suppose if I'm adding the Conversion Beamer I also need...

Gravaton Gun (SM30/PH25) techmarine/tech priest only
Heavy, gets hot, 24" range big blast
Infanty now moves as if in difficult terrain (subsequent hits have no effect)
Vehicles take a glancing hit

 
   
Made in ca
Regular Dakkanaut




Vancouver, Canada

I like it.
It would almost make me want to take stormbolters on my termi commanders again...

-Death Wing

"Repent! For tomorrow you die!"

Dark Angel commander for 12 years and counting 
   
Made in ca
Buttons Should Be Brass, Not Gold!






Soviet Kanukistan

More in line with 2nd edition graviton gun, maybe it should cause pinning - with difficult terrain as a secondary effect?  Vehicles immobilized for a turn?

   
Made in us
Been Around the Block





I've got to say, I'm not a big fan of Armour Piercing Bolts. I mean, that just seems drastic, don't you think? I think the basic idea is good, but it's effect is too drastic.

Armour Piercing Bolts (SM10/PH5
Make any bolter weapon AP 4

See, like Psycannon Bolts minus the invulnerable ignoring.

As for the Graviton Gun, I like the vehicles immobilized for a turn. But be sure to mention that they still count for full victory points, unless otherwise immobilized.
   
Made in in
[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche






Hyderabad, India

I'm not sure an extra pip of AP would sell the upgrade, maybe it should be SM 25 points/PH 20?  maybe limit it to bolters or bolt pistols?

 
   
Made in us
Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch






I would put the AP bolters on all of my IG Jr officers for sure!

   
Made in ch
Dakka Veteran




Planet of Dakka

Well during my last campaign,we did have a guy modelled to look like Rambo.
With two(yes...2) lasguns.
Re-roll missed ones.basically a twinlinked lasgun but the handguns would be cool
How to treat Orks,Tyrannids and especially Necrons?


http://www.petitiononline.com/damnatus/ 
   
Made in de
Dominating Dominatrix






Piercing the heavens

well Orks can upgrade their weapons with more dakka and shootier and stuff. Tyranid Weapons get stronger on the right creature and Necs...
I don't know.
   
 
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