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2012/02/25 01:57:59
Subject: Obama take credit for private oil production.
Me? I blame the Lilliputians. Never have i seen such small minded fools. They refuse to look at the big picture, and, to be short, everyone looks down on them.
That's why I support the bull-moose party.
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2012/02/25 02:46:13
Subject: Obama take credit for private oil production.
Ah, he never said how much rent. For all we know he'd be willing to pay two cubes of butter and some sugar.
moom241, your post was so full of dreadful puns I now have a migraine and am now going to go to bed. You're a monster.
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2012/02/25 02:54:52
Subject: Obama take credit for private oil production.
d-usa wrote:At first I was "Oh, lively and intelligent debate about a political issue", but then I was "derp, FoxNews".
And I will admit that I did not even click on the link. So for all I know it could be full of valid points, but I am not in the mood for Fox tonight.
OK here's some cliff notes.
Gas shot up 12 cents in the past week.
Obama is saying that gas production is going up because of his policies. Industry annalists say that gas production is going up, not because of him but, despite of him. In the federal controlled land production is down 30%, lease sale in the Rocky Mountains on federal land is down 70%. The president has put 85% of the Outer Continental Shelf off limits and is only making 3% of the available for development. Numbers from think tanks and the Federal Energy Administration confirm that.
Republicans are making steadily rising gas prices a political liability. The president wanted to drive up gas prices to make renewable more attractive and still denies drilling will help. Drilling and development takes years and that is why the president can't take credit for leases signed during the Bush administration.
On private lands the oil production is booming, in North Dakota the oil and gas pumps are on state land and beyond the president's control. North Dakota's oil economy has gone from producing a small amount to some 450 thousand barrels a day. Unemployment is at 3.3%, the lowest in the country, and the state has a budget surplus.
The US and Canada have enough oil reserve that along with renewables, we can be energy self-sufficient in 12 years.
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2012/02/25 02:57:32
Subject: Obama take credit for private oil production.
d-usa wrote:At first I was "Oh, lively and intelligent debate about a political issue", but then I was "derp, FoxNews".
And I will admit that I did not even click on the link. So for all I know it could be full of valid points, but I am not in the mood for Fox tonight.
OK here's some cliff notes.
Gas shot up 12 cents in the past week.
Obama is saying that gas production is going up because of his policies. Industry annalists say that gas production is going up, not because of him but, despite of him. In the federal controlled land production is down 30%, lease sale in the Rocky Mountains on federal land is down 70%. The president has put 85% of the Outer Continental Shelf off limits and is only making 3% of the available for development. Numbers from think tanks and the Federal Energy Administration confirm that.
Republicans are making steadily rising gas prices a political liability. The president wanted to drive up gas prices to make renewable more attractive and still denies drilling will help. Drilling and development takes years and that is why the president can't take credit for leases signed during the Bush administration.
On private lands the oil production is booming, in North Dakota the oil and gas pumps are on state land and beyond the president's control. North Dakota's oil economy has gone from producing a small amount to some 450 thousand barrels a day. Unemployment is at 3.3%, the lowest in the country, and the state has a budget surplus.
The US and Canada have enough oil reserve that along with renewables, we can be energy self-sufficient in 12 years.
First of all, calling the American petroleum institute an "expert" on energy policy is like calling hannibal lector an expert on human rights. It's one of the the largest oil lobbying groups on the planet. Second of all the U.S. can not produce enough oil to become energy independent in twelve years. That's a bath salts induced fantasy that an eleven year old could tell is untrue with five minutes on google. Building the infrastructure for that alone would take longer, let alone negotiating contracts for acquisition or pulling the oil itself out of the ground. The proven reserves in the U.S. also wouldn't last very long given how much we use.
Thirdly, north Dakota has a population of a half million people and titanic land wealth per human acre. The united states would have to cover most of the land on the earth for the rest of the country to do what north dakota gets to do. Unfortunately it doesn't.
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WarOne wrote:Yup. Let us ignore it and instead bash Bush for a bad economy.
Lets focus on the real issue here which is the fact that the largest media conglomerate on earth (newscorp) has no journalistic integrity what so ever and engages in party politics and yellow journalism in every outlet it owns on every continent on the planet for the specific aim of making more money.
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2012/02/25 03:31:10
Subject: Obama take credit for private oil production.
WarOne wrote:Yup. Let us ignore it and instead bash Bush for a bad economy.
Lets focus on the real issue here which is the fact that the largest media conglomerate on earth (newscorp) has no journalistic integrity what so ever and engages in party politics and yellow journalism in every outlet it owns on every continent on the planet for the specific aim of making more money.
Oh right, we should all watch progressive news channels like current TV, owned by who,
Spoiler:
Al Gore
because they put on only intelligent people like this.
That would be insane progressive commentator Cenk Uygur. (yes, that is actually how his name is spelled.)
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2012/02/25 03:46:06
Subject: Obama take credit for private oil production.
Two wrongs don't make a right. The bigger wrong is generally speaking the bigger danger. How many million viewers does Uygur have?
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WarOne wrote:Yup. Let us ignore it and instead bash Bush for a bad economy.
Lets focus on the real issue here which is the fact that the largest media conglomerate on earth (newscorp) has no journalistic integrity what so ever and engages in party politics and yellow journalism in every outlet it owns on every continent on the planet for the specific aim of making more money.
Oh right, we should all watch progressive news channels like current TV, owned by who,
Spoiler:
Al Gore
because they put on only intelligent people like this.
That would be insane progressive commentator Cenk Uygur. (yes, that is actually how his name is spelled.)
How about you just stop watching stupid bs entirely. This isn't some sort of weird metaphorical balancing beam, you don't have to fall one way or another.
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2012/02/25 03:54:01
Subject: Obama take credit for private oil production.
Mannahnin wrote:Two wrongs don't make a right. The bigger wrong is generally speaking the bigger danger. How many million viewers does Uygur have?
I'm sure he's vary popular in sanatoriums. You know how many viewer John Stossel has? or an easy one. Sean Hanity? (even though he just spits republican propaganda.)
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2012/02/25 03:57:28
Subject: Obama take credit for private oil production.
Mannahnin wrote:Two wrongs don't make a right. The bigger wrong is generally speaking the bigger danger. How many million viewers does Uygur have?
I'm sure he's vary popular in sanatoriums. You know how many viewer John Stossel has? or an easy one. Sean Hanity? (even though he just spits republican propaganda.)
So wait, are you pro demagoguery and yellow journalism or against? You're sending mixed signals here.
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2012/02/25 04:01:26
Subject: Obama take credit for private oil production.
How about you just stop watching stupid bs entirely. This isn't some sort of weird metaphorical balancing beam, you don't have to fall one way or another.
Sir, what is your problem? You insult everything I say and every source I present. So tell me o great one, what news source isn't stupid bs entirely?
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2012/02/25 04:15:36
Subject: Re:Obama take credit for private oil production.
How about you just stop watching stupid bs entirely. This isn't some sort of weird metaphorical balancing beam, you don't have to fall one way or another.
Sir, what is your problem? You insult everything I say and every source I present. So tell me o great one, what news source isn't stupid bs entirely?
I dunno, the BBC? Reuters? Just stop flipping between fox news and youtube channels.
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2012/02/25 04:19:00
Subject: Obama take credit for private oil production.
Mannahnin wrote:Two wrongs don't make a right. The bigger wrong is generally speaking the bigger danger. How many million viewers does Uygur have?
I'm sure he's vary popular in sanatoriums. You know how many viewer John Stossel has? or an easy one. Sean Hanity? (even though he just spits republican propaganda.)
So wait, are you pro demagoguery and yellow journalism or against? You're sending mixed signals here.
I am pro demagoguery. I like getting news from there because it is the conservative look on the issues. I do not like watching Sean Hanity because every show is the goddamn same. (Don't keep telling me the ways the president blamed Bush, I know this)
For a Libertarian voice I go to Fox Business to watch John Stossel talk about economics and Judge Nepoletano talk about about Laws.
I don't like watching progressive media because every time I turn them on they're talking about race and global warming.
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2012/02/25 04:22:40
Subject: Obama take credit for private oil production.
How about you just stop watching stupid bs entirely. This isn't some sort of weird metaphorical balancing beam, you don't have to fall one way or another.
Sir, what is your problem? You insult everything I say and every source I present. So tell me o great one, what news source isn't stupid bs entirely?
Your arguing with Shuma, thats like arguing with your cat. No matter how good your points are, your arguing with a cat. Ya fell me?
2012/02/25 04:42:46
Subject: Obama take credit for private oil production.
KingCracker wrote:
Your arguing with Shuma, thats like arguing with your cat. No matter how good your points are, your arguing with a cat. Ya fell me?
I suppose you are right, I'm start to sense that this guy will not concede a point. I was raise on the thought that if something really means something to you, it's worth defending. I just never back down from a debate.
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2012/02/25 04:45:24
Subject: Obama take credit for private oil production.
How about you just stop watching stupid bs entirely. This isn't some sort of weird metaphorical balancing beam, you don't have to fall one way or another.
Sir, what is your problem? You insult everything I say and every source I present. So tell me o great one, what news source isn't stupid bs entirely?
Your arguing with Shuma, thats like arguing with your cat. No matter how good your points are, your arguing with a cat. Ya fell me?
Who are you again?
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KingCracker wrote:
Your arguing with Shuma, thats like arguing with your cat. No matter how good your points are, your arguing with a cat. Ya fell me?
I suppose you are right, I'm start to sense that this guy will not concede a point. I was raise on the thought that if something really means something to you, it's worth defending. I just never back down from a debate.
Yeah, I'm probably not going to concede many points because for the most part your points are utterly insane. They started insane, they became Linsane, then they settled back down to simply being intensely ignorant of even the barest facts of economics, science, sociopolitics, or media. You also managed to call me a sheep in your first post to me. For now I'm probably just going to take and pic posts to respond to when they're exceptionally wrong (such as treating one of the largest oil lobbies on the planet as a trusted expert and stating that the U.S. could be energy independent in 12 years).
When I'm not here I'm sure other people will (as they did) do the same. Hell, you managed to break chongara out of his insane conservative costume by somehow raising the bar above what he could truly aspire to. Your wake is impressive.
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2012/02/25 06:16:03
Subject: Obama take credit for private oil production.
Chowderhead wrote:Their breasts caused the housing collapse!
You can fit a family of 5 in each of those things!
I won't lie, I'd be willing to pay rent to live there.
You realize those are not real?
Kim's are, no idea about the rest.
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I am pro demagoguery.
You like convincing people by way of an appeal to prejudice?
I mean, that's fine, and its a necessary thing in a democratic nation for a number of reasons, but most people don't think that's a positive feature of this system of governance.
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