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Oh the silliness of it. so little glue for so much cash! Serioulsy, I pay Zap-a-gap price of 5.99 for .5oz......Then GW makes superglue and has a similar price of 6.60 bucks for,,,,,,,wait for it,,,,,,,,, An amazing quantity of .17oz, same price for .4oz less than the competition out there! I am not likely to pay for GW super glue and anyone else that pays that much for so minute a bit of glue is beyond me. That small an amount of glue can be bought at the local super-market in a 2 pack for about under 2bucks! This latest BS (and I don't Ballistic Skill) from GW on top of their dubious golden child FC just makes me think the decision makers have been sniffing the product a bit. With so many other adhesives out theree selling for less and for greater volume per container, why does GW even bother? Stick to the models and fix FC! Get models out on time for their codex releases instead of knoodling about with distractionary crap already please.

shasolenzabi wrote:why does GW even bother?

Because GW is a big company, not a FLGS. They do not make a profit by being nice to the few regular customers, they make a profit by doing stuff like this and they will continue to until people stop buying it. It is overpriced but that isn't new and you really can't fault a company for trying to make money (at least not this way, you totally can if they raise mini prices for no reason ).

$5.99 for .5oz is a lot. I use BSI cyanoacrylate and it costs me $4.99 for 1oz, $7.99 for 2oz.

I don't know why anyone would buy glue from GW. Superglue from a grocery or pharmacy is better and cheaper.

jonolikespie wrote:

shasolenzabi wrote:why does GW even bother?

Because GW is a big company, not a FLGS. They do not make a profit by being nice to the few regular customers, they make a profit by doing stuff like this and they will continue to until people stop buying it. It is overpriced but that isn't new and you really can't fault a company for trying to make money (at least not this way, you totally can if they raise mini prices for no reason ).

That is called Greed.

Aerethan wrote:$5.99 for .5oz is a lot. I use BSI cyanoacrylate and it costs me $4.99 for 1oz, $7.99 for 2oz.

I don't know why anyone would buy glue from GW. Superglue from a grocery or pharmacy is better and cheaper.

Exactly, but I was using Zap as a level, I mean yes 5.99 for .5oz is not cheap, but 6.60 for not even that amount? INSANE!!!! .17oz iz so small. I saw the bottles and how much was in them. It's more a 3.4oz bottle with half of it air. There are also cheaper plastic cements out there,, I feel this just distracts from GW needing to fix other issues like the lack of full model range when they make a army and new codex. OR the now infamous issues with their FC line of minis. Fix before you fiddle about I say.

I buy GW superglue and I am not insane. It is preferable to the super glue I have avalibal in my local hobby store, melted minis are not fun you know.

Trondheim wrote:I buy GW superglue and I am not insane. It is preferable to the super glue I have avalibal in my local hobby store, melted minis are not fun you know.

How do you have melted minis? do you splurge it all over the mini -_-?

I think it was a jest at how sometimes the GW employees may say that non-GW paint and glue will melt your models.

Superglue does not melt plastic or resin. it works by creating a seamless layer of adhesive between two surfaces. The better the fit the stronger the hold.

Styrene cement for plastics melts the two mating surfaces, effectively 'welding' the two parts together. You could melt a mini with the liquid version of this stuff. I have used melted styrene in liquid cement as a filler on badly fitting styrene model kits.

All that being said, the prices for the GW glues are way too high...

So don't pay them. There's nothing forcing you to buy GW glue and clearly they make enough money selling it at their price point for it to be worth it to them so it's not going to change.

shasolenzabi wrote:Oh the silliness of it. so little glue for so much cash! Serioulsy, I pay Zap-a-gap price of 5.99 for .5oz......Then GW makes superglue and has a similar price of 6.60 bucks for,,,,,,,wait for it,,,,,,,,, An amazing quantity of .17oz, same price for .4oz less than the competition out there! I am not likely to pay for GW super glue and anyone else that pays that much for so minute a bit of glue is beyond me. That small an amount of glue can be bought at the local super-market in a 2 pack for about under 2bucks! This latest BS (and I don't Ballistic Skill) from GW on top of their dubious golden child FC just makes me think the decision makers have been sniffing the product a bit. With so many other adhesives out theree selling for less and for greater volume per container, why does GW even bother? Stick to the models and fix FC! Get models out on time for their codex releases instead of knoodling about with distractionary crap already please.

If you think GW's super and plastic glues are overpriced, wait till you price their PVA glue. A 4oz bottle of GW PVA glue sells for $8.62 at my LFGS. I can walk right across the street to the office suply shop and get those same 4oz of PVA (Elmer's Glue) for $1.00. So I can get 64oz of glue for the price of one bottle of GW's overpriced glue.

I think that GW may find that they should have introduced their puny glue supply with a much lowered price tag.

shasolenzabi wrote:I think that GW may find that they should have introduced their puny glue supply with a much lowered price tag.

Now it wouldn't be GW if they did that.

Zathras wrote:

shasolenzabi wrote:I think that GW may find that they should have introduced their puny glue supply with a much lowered price tag.

Now it wouldn't be GW if they did that.

Hmmm, so very true.

n0t_u wrote:I think it was a jest at how sometimes the GW employees may say that non-GW paint and glue will melt your models.

And you think he believes it?

Do you think an HDMI cable from radioshack or best buy should be $30 for 6 ft? How about $40 for a cheep set of wipers at a tire and lube place? Concessions at a movie theater? We are part of a hobby that can cost upwards of $100 just to build one unit of ten plastic army men. Hell its $250 for a 10 man of grotesques. Getting pissed about the glue when you ALREADY purchase your glue elsewhere seems a bit trite.

They charge as much as they do because its an impulse/convenience purchase. I myself would never spend 7 bucks on superglue, like you i buy mine for cheep. But for some people just spending the extra 4 bucks for a one stop shop is worth it.

This is not some super sinister world ending greedy money grab, its standard practice in a retail setting. You, being an informed consumer, are able to navigate the pitfalls and evil sales people who are payed to steal your money. That's great for you. But remember, if GW wasn't constantly trying to find ways to improve their bottom line we would probably be playing some other game and bitching about the retail habits of some other company.

We, as a whole, have turned GW from a mom and pop, cheep, always looking out for the consumer and trying to save them money business into a large publicly traded corporation. Once that happens they aren't trying to build a starter consumer base, they are in it for profit. Call it greed but, my friend, its just business.

LunaHound wrote:

n0t_u wrote:I think it was a jest at how sometimes the GW employees may say that non-GW paint and glue will melt your models.

And you think he believes it?

Hopefully no one does, but if someone doesn't know any better it could probably get an underhanded sale through.

dionysus wrote:Do you think an HDMI cable from radioshack or best buy should be $30 for 6 ft? How about $40 for a cheep set of wipers at a tire and lube place? Concessions at a movie theater? We are part of a hobby that can cost upwards of $100 just to build one unit of ten plastic army men. Hell its $250 for a 10 man of grotesques. Getting pissed about the glue when you ALREADY purchase your glue elsewhere seems a bit trite.

They charge as much as they do because its an impulse/convenience purchase. I myself would never spend 7 bucks on superglue, like you i buy mine for cheep. But for some people just spending the extra 4 bucks for a one stop shop is worth it.

This is not some super sinister world ending greedy money grab, its standard practice in a retail setting. You, being an informed consumer, are able to navigate the pitfalls and evil sales people who are payed to steal your money. That's great for you. But remember, if GW wasn't constantly trying to find ways to improve their bottom line we would probably be playing some other game and bitching about the retail habits of some other company.

We, as a whole, have turned GW from a mom and pop, cheep, always looking out for the consumer and trying to save them money business into a large publicly traded corporation. Once that happens they aren't trying to build a starter consumer base, they are in it for profit. Call it greed but, my friend, its just business.

Well, having gotten HDMI at 6ft for 15bucks that analogy fell flat.

I am just looking at the idea that with some of their bottom line falling out because folks are not happy that they take so long to finish lines of minis for their codex releases, and some armies have yet to have those completed, and that their sales are again likely to fall with the FC Fiasco, they do this. I feel GW should fix these problems before looking to grab a few shillings when they are likely to lose pounds from no one interested due to shoddy merch or lack of merchandise for their ranges.

In other words, what good is my car if it is sold brand new w/o say the seats? and or the doors? Yet they sell me now some sort of paint touch up material for this unfinished car? I swear that they act so ADD going from one project to another w/o fixing problems with the first items. Yes, informed folks will steer clear of this silliness of these glues that are overpriced and so little in amount.

The other way this argument could have been spun is that GWS is selling 4.8 grams of glue for $6, while Loc-tite has the unmitigated gall to symbolically rape you by charging you almost 8 bucks for only 4 grams. Obviously this is because the Loc-tite corporation is greedy and horrible and we should boycott them.

Listen, man. I think GWS does some things which are sort of crappy as well, but I don't think we should be revving up the Internet Hate Train over this. People have said their glue sucks for years, so they come up with two new glues, and still get hassled for it because their prices are about the same as Lowes*? C'mon, guys.

*For some reason Google says Lowe's charges $4 for Loctite Ultra. This is not true, at least not at my store. I buy it all the time, and it's $5 for the regular gel and $6 for Ultra, pre-tax.

Ouze wrote:get hassled for it because their prices are about the same as Lowes*? C'mon, guys.

Are the price the "same" as in per ounce or just the price tag? xD

@Ouze, Google is weird

shasolenzabi wrote:Well, having gotten HDMI at 6ft for 15bucks that analogy fell flat..

It's not that it fell flat so much as you missed his point. You pay $40 for an HDMI cable at Best Buy because it's convenient to get it there while you're getting a TV or Bluray or walkman whatever the kids like today; even though you would pay much less for a better cable if you knew where to buy it. In other words, GWS is charging you $1 for the glue, and $5 for the ability to get it at GWS.

That's what I think he was trying to say.

Talos63 wrote:Superglue does not melt plastic or resin.

It CAN melt plastics. WE are talking 5x the amount needed and the heat produced by the exothermic reaction IS enough to melt plastic (and set flammables on fire) WITHOUT accelerant.

Only noobs use this much glue though. Or the average denizen of the dank caves known as "GW Hobby Centres" (locally).

Ouze wrote:It's not that it fell flat so much as you missed his point. You pay $40 for an HDMI cable at Best Buy because it's convenient to get it there while you're getting a TV or Bluray or walkman whatever the kids like today; even though you would pay much less for a better cable if you knew where to buy it. In other words, GWS is charging you $1 for the glue, and $5 for the ability to get it at GWS.

That's what I think he was trying to say.

Not only was this the price at their online store, BUT this is what they have the local game store selling it at and the store is NOT a GW store bu an independent retailer going by the price GW told them to charge. Even the Owner was rolling his eyes knowing how much cheaper the stuff is elsewhere!

LunaHound wrote:

Ouze wrote:get hassled for it because their prices are about the same as Lowes*? C'mon, guys.

Are the price the "same" as in per ounce or just the price tag? xD

GWS glue is $1.37 per gram while Loc-Tite ultra is $1.50 per gram. I am sure that Loc-Tite Ultra is a better buy regardless of being more expensive because GWS has a poor track record for glue, while Loc-Tite Ultra is the finest glue in the world - I'd marry it, if I could, and woo it with wine and song, but in the end Lot-Tite Ultra Gel is a cruel and fickle mistress and could never love me, the only thing it could truly love is firmly bonding things together, but it could never mend my broken heart - but anyway, it's good glue.

Ouze, sounds like a love-hate relationship with Loc-Tite. I laughed at that last post it was well done!

Stuff glue! Why do Heinz charge what they do for beans? It costs more than Cross & Blackwell!!! We all know supermarket own brands are available for less. Damn Heinz and their overpriced fleecing attempts to make money. Oh wait, they're a business. I'll get back to work.

shasolenzabi wrote:Oh the silliness of it. so little glue for so much cash! Serioulsy, I pay Zap-a-gap price of 5.99 for .5oz......Then GW makes superglue and has a similar price of 6.60 bucks for,,,,,,,wait for it,,,,,,,,, An amazing quantity of .17oz, same price for .4oz less than the competition out there! I am not likely to pay for GW super glue and anyone else that pays that much for so minute a bit of glue is beyond me. That small an amount of glue can be bought at the local super-market in a 2 pack for about under 2bucks! This latest BS (and I don't Ballistic Skill) from GW on top of their dubious golden child FC just makes me think the decision makers have been sniffing the product a bit. With so many other adhesives out theree selling for less and for greater volume per container, why does GW even bother? Stick to the models and fix FC! Get models out on time for their codex releases instead of knoodling about with distractionary crap already please.

Forget the quanitity, GW is like water compared to zzap gap. It just doesnt hold well.

So, small amount, and poor quality to boot. Seems GW is no longer looking at making quality as they also will make beautiful, yet warped plastics as well. QA for GW is just in the sewer it seems.

Of all the glue I have tried over the years Zzap is the best.

Meh, I bought a bottle of it, no complaint about the price but my complaint would be that it may only be half full! But then its pretty hard to measue 5grams of glue with out either using it all or sticking your body together in the process.

In all seriouslessness I got two tubes of loctite 2.5gram gel for 50p more than this stuff but that took me about two weeks to get my hands on. Good super glue can be difficult to easily get here so I thought I would see if the Thick GW SG is any good as it's easier to get. Not used it yet but will post something when I do.