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2012/04/11 20:35:40
Subject: Wait...That model has what size base?
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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I'm currently assembling a blood angel army and have noticed that some of the elite choices are supplied with 25mm bases instead of what I thought would have been 40mm bases. San. Guard for example come supplied with 25mm bases, I was under the impression that HQ's and elites have to be on 40mm bases (Terminators for example), what gives? And what about San. Priests?
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dazed and confused 
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2012/04/11 20:38:13
Subject: Wait...That model has what size base?
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Terminators come with 40mm bases these days. No idea where you got the idea that all elites and HQs would be on them, though. Non-terminator Space Marines come pretty much exclusively with 25mm bases.
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2012/04/11 20:39:52
Subject: Wait...That model has what size base?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Power armor, even with jump packs = 25mm base
Terminator armor = 40mm base
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2012/04/11 20:53:36
Subject: Wait...That model has what size base?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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It's more about the size of the model than the FOC slot it occupies. Deathwing Terminators, for example, are still on 40mm bases even if they are Troops after taking Belial, while Sternguard Veterans are still mounted on 25mm bases.
Sanguinary Guard are fairly large models, but they aren't as bulky as Terminators, so 25mm fits them just fine.
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2012/04/11 21:25:29
Subject: Re:Wait...That model has what size base?
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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Alright, thanks for the quick responses. 
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It is the 3rd Millennium. For more than a hundred months Games Workshop has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Nottingham. It is the foremost of wargames by the will of the neckbeards, and master of a million tabletops by the might of their inexhaustible wallets. It is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with business strategies from the early Industrial Revolution Age. It is the Carrion Lord of the wargaming scene for whom a thousand veteran players are sacrificed every day, so that it may never truly die. Yet even in its deathless state, GW continues its eternal vigilance. Mighty battleforce starter-sets cross the online-store-infested miasma of the internet, the only route between distant countries, their way lit by a draconian retail trade-agreement, the legal manifestation of the GW's will. Vast armies of lawyers give battle in GW's name on uncounted websites. Greatest amongst its soldiers are the Guardians of the IP, the Legal Team, bio-engineered super-donkey-caves. Their comrades in arms are legion: the writing team and countless untested rulebooks, the ever vigilant redshirts, and the writers of White Dwarf, to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat from other games, their own incompetence, Based Chinaman - and worse. To support Games Workshop in such times is to spend untold billions. It is to support the cruelest and most dickish company imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of sales discounts and Warhammer Fantasy Battle, for so much has been dropped, never to be re-published again. Forget the promise of cheaper digital content and caring about the fanbase, for in the GW HQ there is only profit-seeking, Space Marines and Sigmarines. There is no fun amongst the hobby shops, only an eternity of raging and spending, and the laughter of former employees who left GW to join better companies. |
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2012/04/12 16:39:10
Subject: Wait...That model has what size base?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Regarding base sizes: my son(13) has 6 old school termies (25mm) and 4 new termies (40mm) from AOBR. AFAIK the rules don't prohibit him from making a unit of 10 termies with him models with different base sizes. Any issues from the vast community. I know local meta and tourneys is Approval.
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2012/04/12 16:49:20
Subject: Wait...That model has what size base?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I actually have that problem too, Yonush, and so far no problems running mixed-base-size units.
The phrasing in the rule-book is one "must use the base that comes with the model" or something to that effect.
So I do.
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2012/04/12 17:56:18
Subject: Wait...That model has what size base?
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
Sioux Falls, SD
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Yonush wrote:Regarding base sizes: my son(13) has 6 old school termies (25mm) and 4 new termies (40mm) from AOBR. AFAIK the rules don't prohibit him from making a unit of 10 termies with him models with different base sizes. Any issues from the vast community. I know local meta and tourneys is Approval.
The only issue I've seen people have is if your deep striking mixed units of them and using the smaller ones as the marker to attempt to gain an advantage, really comes down to how they are used and what perceived benefits they give. Most players and judges will probably be perfectly fine with it since it is the base they were supplied with.
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Blood for the bloo... wait no, I meant for Sanguinius!  |
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2012/04/12 18:00:50
Subject: Wait...That model has what size base?
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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When I first bought a Killa Kan it didn't come with a base. Later I bought one and it came with a 40mm (which is still to small). Now they're on 60mm.
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2012/04/12 20:21:32
Subject: Wait...That model has what size base?
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Sinewy Scourge
Grand ol US of A
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Yonush wrote:Regarding base sizes: my son(13) has 6 old school termies (25mm) and 4 new termies (40mm) from AOBR. AFAIK the rules don't prohibit him from making a unit of 10 termies with him models with different base sizes. Any issues from the vast community. I know local meta and tourneys is Approval.
The rule is that they are on the size bases they were supplied with. I too have some old terminators which technically I cannot move to a larger base. Now I have magnetized the a larger base to the smaller one so if people complain I can merely swap the base to the big one to avoid any fights. It can become an issue with things like DS but if your meta and tourneys approve then its all good.
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d3m01iti0n wrote:
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2012/04/14 20:55:31
Subject: Wait...That model has what size base?
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
Sioux Falls, SD
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Akroma06 wrote:Yonush wrote:Regarding base sizes: my son(13) has 6 old school termies (25mm) and 4 new termies (40mm) from AOBR. AFAIK the rules don't prohibit him from making a unit of 10 termies with him models with different base sizes. Any issues from the vast community. I know local meta and tourneys is Approval.
The rule is that they are on the size bases they were supplied with. I too have some old terminators which technically I cannot move to a larger base. Now I have magnetized the a larger base to the smaller one so if people complain I can merely swap the base to the big one to avoid any fights. It can become an issue with things like DS but if your meta and tourneys approve then its all good.
Someone I know for a while had 3 groups of termies 2 new 1 old, he would mix them so that he had one small one in each group to deep strike with, this did cause some debate in our local group because we wold be fine with it being 1 25mm squad and 2 40mm squads but he was specificly using the old ones to gain an advantage in all 3 squad when deep striking.
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2012/04/15 08:39:56
Subject: Wait...That model has what size base?
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Pulsating Possessed Space Marine of Slaanesh
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Just a quick one, do Obliterators and Terminators have the same base size?
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 Gentleman_Jellyfish wrote:Cue all the people saying "This is the last straw! Now I'm only going to buy a little bit every now and then!"
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2012/04/15 15:38:40
Subject: Wait...That model has what size base?
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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angel of ecstasy wrote:Just a quick one, do Obliterators and Terminators have the same base size?
They are both on 40MM bases these days I believe
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