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So the title says it all. If GW had to decided which of these two codexes would serves as a basis for the next one of 6th ed, which should it be and why ? Personnaly, I jumped in the game with the 4th edition one, but recently I came to read the one of 3.5 and I think I prefer this one (hell, I think it can make far more competitive armies, but that's my opinion, and I'm a noob). I also enabled the multiple choice answers in case you would like to see elements of both codex (but tell us witch and why ).

3.5 had real legions, more marked troop types, real demons. Of course any new Chaos codex should look like 3.5 not the piece of excrement 4th edition.

Neither. It should be entirely different. That's the way GW is going with codexes, and I approve of it.

3.5, because i play Word Bearers. nuff' said

Samus_aran115 wrote:Neither. It should be entirely different. That's the way GW is going with codexes, and I approve of it.

I might be with you on this point if by different you mean better, but GW tend to alway screw some part of their armies when they release a new codex, like by sometime OP them or screwing their fluff.

Samus_aran115 wrote:Neither. It should be entirely different. That's the way GW is going with codexes, and I approve of it.

I'm pretre and I approve of this message.

Likewise.

GW should do with CSM what they did with the Imperial Guard codex. Give enough options to play any of the different types that are in the fluff, but they should be in one nicely streamlined codex, rather than that horrible four or five mini-WD-codices trainwrecked together like the older CSM codices.

Take the current codex and streamline it down so that you can add more features, just like what happened to guard.

CSM doesn't need legion sections, they just need something akin to

"Chaos Space Marines...

... a squad of chaos space marines may be upgraded to khorne berzerkers at X points per model. All models in this unit gain fearless, +1A, fleet, and furious charge.

A squad of chaos space marines may be upgraded to thousand sons at Y points per model...."

... etc.

The new way they write codices is fantastic compared to the way that they used to, so they should use current codex design and base CSM on that.

Ailaros wrote:GW should do with CSM what they did with the Imperial Guard codex.

We should be so lucky.

Ailaros wrote:Likewise.

GW should do with CSM what they did with the Imperial Guard codex. Give enough options to play any of the different types that are in the fluff, but they should be in one nicely streamlined codex, rather than that horrible four or five mini-WD-codices trainwrecked together like the older CSM codices.

Take the current codex and streamline it down so that you can add more features, just like what happened to guard.

CSM doesn't need legion sections, they just need something akin to

"Chaos Space Marines...

... a squad of chaos space marines may be upgraded to khorne berzerkers at X points per model. All models in this unit gain fearless, +1A, fleet, and furious charge.

A squad of chaos space marines may be upgraded to thousand sons at Y points per model...."

... etc.

The new way they write codices is fantastic compared to the way that they used to, so they should use current codex design and base CSM on that.

What you describe here is close to what the 3.5 codex had

Khornate25 wrote:What you describe here is close to what the 3.5 codex had

Not really... The 3.5 codex had the main book and then separate pages for each of the legions that modified how everything worked. It was awesome, don't get me wrong, but it isn't what Ailaros is describing.

Imagine the Guard codex, but CSM.

A little from column A, a little from column B. More organized and structured than the 3.5 book, but not so strict as the 4th ed one. They're two extremes and I think a comfortable medium can be found.

Brother SRM wrote:A little from column A, a little from column B. More organized and structured than the 3.5 book, but not so strict as the 4th ed one. They're two extremes and I think a comfortable medium can be found.

This.

The 3.5 had too much in it, too much room for abuse and too many restrictions IMHO, whereas the 4th edition one is clearly too simplified.