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Hey guys my LGS has decided to do a league to get people interested in fantasy so I figure I'd bust out my HE again and see what I can do.

Mage lvl 2 Genera High magic: Silver wand 145pts

Spearmen x15 full command 160pts
Spearmen x15 full command 160pts

phoenix Guardx10 Full command Skeinsliver 205pts

Shadow warriors x5

Total: 750

Phoenix Guard seem like a good choice,very durable and perfect unit for my mage but I fear they might now have the killing power to be effective. Note I didnt have enough points for the banner of Sorcery. I chose shadow warriors because I wanted a somewhat cheap annoying unit, probaly will drop them for an eagle (but its not assemble and their a pain). I'm not confident on the High magic but I chose it because if I go against someone with a wizard drain magic can ruin their magic phase, and High magic has a pretty balance list of spells that are somewhat useful I think the curse would probably be the worst spell in the list. What do yall think?

The league increase its point size by 500pts a month and unfortunately no special terrain rules and no special characters so my plans of running khoril and Teclis are ruined.

Drain magic and HE magic lore is not that effective with your low level wizard and lack of offensive units I recommend Beast for the signature spell or take the item that lets you picks spells (staff of hoath?) and take shadow with mindrazor.

Eagles are HEs best chaff unit and shadow warriors one of our worse.

Teclis is pure filth and not fun for you or your opponent I have used him a few times and both times afterwards I felt dirty while my opponent felt like a rape victim.

shadow warriors are terribad currently.

Use the points on an eagle and some more PG.

Yea... shadow warriors kinda suck I was just kinda hoping that they might be ok in a very low point game. Oh well better get to pinning on that eagle. I dunno High magic isn't that bad but I'm looking at the lore of life, I don't think I could effectively pull of okkrams razor with a lvl 2.

Also why the stink with Teclis he isn't that bad and your about 500pts for a T2 elf.

He is still OP and no one has fun playing against him.

It is generally accepted as a dick move to run him, especially in tourneys.

Aerethan wrote:He is still OP and no one has fun playing against him.

It is generally accepted as a dick move to run him, especially in tourneys.

What about dual hydra with cauldron DE lists?

or slaan in temple guard surrounded by saurus with camo skinks and 2-4 salamanders?

Or big 40-50 blocks of marauders of chaos with GW and mark of khorne?

Or big 40-50 blocks of corsairs with AHW and frenzy?

Or skaven taking 2 hellpits?


I regularly see all of these at my local GW yet everyone there still agrees and QQ's about teclis.

BronzeJon wrote:

Aerethan wrote:He is still OP and no one has fun playing against him.

It is generally accepted as a dick move to run him, especially in tourneys.

What about dual hydra with cauldron DE lists?

or slaan in temple guard surrounded by saurus with camo skinks and 2-4 salamanders?

Or big 40-50 blocks of marauders of chaos with GW and mark of khorne?

Or big 40-50 blocks of corsairs with AHW and frenzy?

Or skaven taking 2 hellpits?


I regularly see all of these at my local GW yet everyone there still agrees and QQ's about teclis.

Dual Hydra and Hellpits has a hard counter in the form of the flaming banner (in fact I see them as free points)

40-50 marauders is a solid choice but you cant really qq about folk taking big blocks of core in warhammer

Cauldron is insta gibbed by alot of spells pit of shades etc

Slann and temple guard are nasty I will give you that but Teclis is in a different league.

There is no hard counter to Teclis you need to to kill an entire army to get to him and nine times out of ten he is sitting in a big block of PG with the banner of the world dragon.

The current reason i see Teclis as something to be left at home besides the stigma is the prevalence of sniper poison maneaters. He has No save. If you want a save, you're either committing him to the lore of life, or high magic, unless you want your scroll caddy doing it, and either way, it's not the best. Lore of death spells eat him.
Yes, they're close range, yes, they can be dispelled, but you can still pray for boxcars.

As for korhil,who seems to have been a bit overlooked, I feel your pain there. He's a fun special character, and stubborn on an okay combat character. If you want to duplicate his effect, your only real option is the crown of command. Probably not the best choice for a BSB, so it's probably a better move to put it on a combat character with heavy armor, the dragon helm, and a great weapon. You'll actually wind up being a tiny bit different than korhil, but your cc save is the same, and you get the 2++ against flaming.