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Hi guys,

First time posting here but I have been reading these forums for a little while. I've made a new thread because a friend of mine is painting his DKOK and can't replicate the finish from the first batch of soldiers he painted (please see pic below):



As you can see the soldier on the left is far too light compared to how its supposed to look, shown by the soldier on the right. My friend says he used the same methods both times so he doesn't know what went wrong. The only thing he can think of is that he left the first batch of soldiers to soak in soapy water a lot longer to get rid of the residue on the resin (no idea if that makes a difference or is necessary as I've never painted a resin model myself! ).

The method he uses is the same as shown in this thread.

Essentially it requires using an undercoat and washes only, no paints. I don't see why one coat of wash should be so dramatically different from the other. Both models use the same undercoat, the same wash (used straight from the pot both times).

So it would be great if anyone could help? I'm trying to make him finish his army for 40k in 40mins... erg.

Thanks!

To me it looks as though the second mini has not had washes applied to it.

Less wash on the brush? he did shake the pot the second time? Not really sure beyond that.

Deathshead420 wrote:To me it looks as though the second mini has not had washes applied to it.

That's what I asked him but he says he applied the wash to the second soldier (left) identically to the first, it just turned out much, much lighter for some reason. He also said he only needed to apply one layer of the wash to get the result he had with the first. He tried it again with the second and ended up with the soldier on the left.

lol... maybe he needed to shake the wash first?


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Skippy wrote:Less wash on the brush? he did shake the pot the second time? Not really sure beyond that.

Would not shaking the pot make that much difference? He said he applied the same amount of wash initially but applied more to the second one when the results weren't the same because the wash wasn't staying where he applied it. He also says he didn't shake the pot the first time round?! Maybe the wash has just, "gone bad"? Can that happen?

If I was to make a guess, the second model looks like it had a basecoat first, then a wash, rather than a wash over primer. Perhaps he forgot that.

The other suggestion does have merit however, as washes which are unshaken contain mostly medium and not pigment, which would also account for a lighter tone.

There also might be a little bit of optical illusion at work. I think that the wash is indeed lighter, but appears lighter because there is so much white on the rest of the model? I could be totally off base (and probably am) but try finishing the model first.

HiveFleet wrote:If I was to make a guess, the second model looks like it had a basecoat first, then a wash, rather than a wash over primer. Perhaps he forgot that.

The other suggestion does have merit however, as washes which are unshaken contain mostly medium and not pigment, which would also account for a lighter tone.

Thanks, I'm beginning to think that it must be the wash as well, as he just told me that he used "GW white spray paint first time" and "GW second then I got the watered down effect". He then tried "Halfords car primer which was even worse".




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Brymm wrote:There also might be a little bit of optical illusion at work. I think that the wash is indeed lighter, but appears lighter because there is so much white on the rest of the model? I could be totally off base (and probably am) but try finishing the model first.

I know what you mean, but as I took the photo I can verify that it is that much lighter as the photo suggests. First time I saw it I asked him if he simply forgot to add more layers of wash, but he insists he only needed to apply one layer to the original as well.

I'm definitely leaning toward it being a problem with the wash itself.


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OK guys, turns out it that the wash needed a good shake! He's getting identical results to the first batch he painted now.

I guess the wash didn't need shaking the first time he used it because it was new.

Thanks for the input guys!