Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

So I'm doing what I always wanted to do with my Necron now that the stuff is out and that is my Necron flying Circus. (4 Night Scythes carrying immortals and 3 doom scythes)

I know the 6th ed rules aren't out yet but it's looks to me like almost certain that the current rumours are right so if you could just humour it for now?

With the Immortals the new rules are making me think that the Gauss Blasters are superior to Tesla now as you now can move and still fire your rapid fire weapons at full range once. This can be coupled with using an overlord Phaeron making them relentless meaning that they can fire twice at full range and 3 times at 12.

With the ability to do that I'm not sure if there's a good reason to take Tesla carbine. Can anyone else thing of something?

To be honest if nothing else changes Gauss is the clear winner, it kills troops and vehicles and gets a larger pool of shots with relentless and things with weak armour saves wont get an armor save.

Kind of saddens me I liked the Tesla quality.

Tesla is good for overwatch. The 6's cause 3 hits

Does relentless really do what you say?

The rule rumor said (but i must stress the word rumour)

"Rapid Fire: double tap up to 24” if stationary. 1 shot at 24" or 2 shots at 12" if moving. Relentless gives and extra shot at each range if stationary as well as the standard bonus. "

ArmyC wrote:Tesla is good for overwatch. The 6's cause 3 hits

Does relentless really do what you say?

No one knows for sure what Relentless does yet. (SATURDAY CANT GET HERE FAST ENOUGH...lol)

As for which is better, Gauss Blasters will be the clear winner here. As it stands, Tesla is good for 24' shooting when its combined with a Triarch Stalker for twin-linking. Once 6th comes however, I think 95% of Necron players will choose Gauss Blasters.

Tesla with a pharon might prove interesting

ArmyC wrote:Tesla with a pharon might prove interesting

That would be very interesting if Tesla could get that buff (20~60 wounds if all hit)
Though a guaranteed 60 shots of Gauss at 12" and then assault because why not looks even sexier. (bye bye hoardes)

Serge-David wrote:

ArmyC wrote:Tesla with a pharon might prove interesting

That would be very interesting if Tesla could get that buff (20~60 wounds if all hit)
Though a guaranteed 60 shots of Gauss at 12" and then assault because why not looks even sexier. (bye bye hoardes)

After 60 gauss shots hits a hoard (lets say 20 orks) you will either of wiped out the orks or because of the way the new wound priority goes killed all the ones you could reach with a charge.

I think a mix is going to be the best.

Tesla Immortals backed up by Pharon Warriors.

I think most players would give probably one squad gauss and attach a phaeron to it (while the other overlord is either pulling disco inferno or ccb drive-by's) with the other squads carrying tesla.

The rumor right now is that RAPID FIRE weapons get the relentless bonus, and tesla is an assault weapon.

Right now I have 3 full squads of Immortals, 2 with Tesla and 1 that can be either Gauss or Tesla (3rd ed Immortals). If it does turn out that Gauss is superior to Tesla then then I'll have 2 squads of Immortals with funky looking Gauss Blasters.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

Serge-David wrote:

ArmyC wrote:Tesla with a pharon might prove interesting

That would be very interesting if Tesla could get that buff (20~60 wounds if all hit)
Though a guaranteed 60 shots of Gauss at 12" and then assault because why not looks even sexier. (bye bye hoardes)

Actually, if the rumor is true, you'd only get 30 shots at 12" with Immortals that have an attached Phaeron. Max unit size for Immortals is 10.

I still think I will carry a blend of Immortals some with Tesla and some with Gause only because I do like the option of 2 extra wounds on 6's...But that will definitely be based on what type of army I'm facing. A infantry heavy will more than likely get a lot more Tesla attention than a armor heavy.... I do like the the idea of rapid fire with relentless if once again the rumor mill is true.

Having now read the rulebook, the Relentless rule doesn't help rapid fire weapons in any way other than allowing charges after firing :(

However, Rapid Fire can now move and shoot. Between that and the power of glancing hits at killing vehicles, I'd say Gauss is now the better option for most squads.

I'd probably recommend a 2:1 ratio of Gauss Squads to Tesla Squads.
Whilst I think Gauss is now the better option, a mix is often preferable IMHO.

I am still a fan of the warrior phalanx (mostly due to the fact that i already had 60 when the 'dex dropped and i can't afford to buy any mor immortals).

i will stick to my 10 man squad of tesla Immortals, the potential of 30 anti-infantry hits is too good not to have IMO.

If it's glancing hits you're after then Gauss Blaster/gauss Flayer doesn't make a difference,. they have the same number of shots at the same range, and the +1 S of the blaster doesn't matter as a 6 is a 6 either way.

For gauss spam, the warriors is the better choice as you can get more shots at the same range for the same cost as immortals.

Just started Necs and I like wot I am seeing here with wot I can do with 46 warriors with Gauss guns .

46 warriors is a pretty solid core. I have a total of 60 but in my standard 1500 list i field them thusly:

5 in a Ghost Ark (with lance Tek)
5 on foot (home objective guard)
10 on foot (walking along with the Ark for support.



With 6th ed making them so effective against armour i'm think an Ark with 9 warriors and a lancetek is a potent anti armour gunship now (especially as the warriors can move 6" in the Ark and shoot up to 24")


I'm also thinking a Lord with MSS and Gauntlet of Fire is the new way to protect warriors in combat. With the flamer on the gauntlet he is gettign D3 auto hit in overwatch, and can re-roll hits in cc.

It looks like Gauss is going to be the answer most of the time, but Praxiss makes a great point (as always!) about running warriors instead. I'm thinking that 8-9 warriors w/destructeks in a ghost ark are going to be something pretty nasty.

Me, I'm just dreaming of Wraiths with Preferred Enemy because a destroyer lord joined the unit.

we´ll flamers and the like will be a great difference in the game now!

good to take care of bastion campers, excellent in overwatch...for me the most important is to mix it in a tesla and a gauss blob.

as said before a 6 is a 6. So, maybe, against vehicles - gauss, against foot - tesla - a 6 means 2 or 3 hits!!!

bye