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2006/03/09 19:04:03
Subject: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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Thats right, I did it and I'm proud! These are the boyz I'm takin to adepticon for the Team Tourney. Enjoy! http://www.pbase.com/whitedragon Up next, dipped necrons, nids, DEATHWING, and SOB!
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2006/03/09 19:30:20
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Regular Dakkanaut
Seattle, WA, USA
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Ah, very cool. I have some pics of some of the orks and grots that I dipped over on the waaagh: http://www.the-waaagh.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=14372& hl=dipped Dipping is the way to go. Did you use camo green as your skin basecoat?
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2006/03/09 23:35:39
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Dakka Veteran
Planet of Dakka
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NOOOOOOOooooOOOoooOO000OO! MOLD LINES AND DRILLED OUT BARRELS!!! But except that,that is a rather nice result for such a test.Wonder how the tin-men will look. Is that big metal monsta converted or is it a non-GW fig?
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2006/03/10 02:00:29
Subject: RE:DIPPED ORKZ!
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles
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whitedragon: Nooooo..my sweet, sweet prejudice against dipping.... Blak Orkz, how do I love thee? Let me count da grotz.... Ded 'ard...rafi: ...and proppa! The Giant Squiggoths even excuse this: Posted By whitedragon on 03/10/2006 12:04 AMUp next, dipped necrons, nids, DEATHWING, and SOB!
:S Run for the hills!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just promise me you won't use brown dip on the necrons.
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2006/03/10 02:13:33
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm contemplating Dipping Orcs for WFB. Did you thin the varnish or something? I'm currently dipping 'nids and it comes out thicker than that with my woodstain.
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2006/03/10 02:45:02
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Regular Dakkanaut
Bucharest, Romania
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Whitedragon-
That's really nice. I was a little worried because I did not think orcs/orks would look good dipped, but they turned out really nice. They have a very "dirty" look which is truly orky.
I'm interested in what your Necrons would look like. Let us know if you have problems shaking them since they are so spindley.
-Jmz
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2006/03/10 03:04:11
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The dip is a little thick for my tastes, and then there's the mold lines and plugged barrels. BUT. They look a lot better than my Orks, which have been sitting unpainted in a box for 5 years because I can't face the thought of painting so many of them. Base them up nicely and they'll look super-kewl. I think Orks are the next frontier for dipping (Tyranids, Necrons, Orks...) - the dirty look really suits them.
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2006/03/10 03:21:11
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Stabbin' Skarboy
Dirty Jersey
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which dip did you use? and what color is the ork skin? i have to help paint 142 orks in 7 weeks and help friends w/ armies so i need all the help i can get
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2006/03/10 03:39:52
Subject: RE:DIPPED ORKZ!
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Stabbin' Skarboy
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I think they came out great man, yeah there are some mold lines and such but thats really up to you. I would how ever suggest ( you possible have not gotten this far with them yet ) that you hit them with a coat or two of matt sealer, that will knock that wet look off them and really make the dip pop on those figs. They dont look as dipped after that too. May be try it on one guy and see what you think. Love the Blood bowl Ogre as a boss idea, nice touch there.
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2006/03/10 04:44:55
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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Rafi: I used your tutorial on the waagh as my inspiration. Sorry if I forgot to give credit. I used camo green, codex grey, bestial brown, and mithril silver. The cyborks (gold bits) are sprayed boltgun metal. To everyone else, I hereby swear to NEVER EVER remove another mold line, or drill out another gun barrel. For cryin out loud people, seriously, in 1000 pts i have 80 models and 3 vehicles, and when they die, I pull them off by the handfull, so I could care less about it. I used MinWax Polyshades Antique Walnut Satin, and for my "dip stick", I glued thick straws to the inside of a paint pot lid, then I glue the model to the top of the paint pot lid, then I dip it in the stain, and then spin it between my hands upside down into my trash can. (kind like you're trying to make a fire) Comes out perfect everytime. The most important thing to remember is to STIR YOUR STAIN or all the pigment settles to the bottom and all you get is shiny. As for the shiny, I'm going to use testors dullcoat on them after I get the bases done. And yes, the big silver guy is my warboss, based off a blood bowl ogre. I'm suprised nobody liked my black orc rokkit boy. THANKS FOR ALL THE COMMENTS!
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2006/03/10 04:52:15
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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they look pretty good considering the effort.
I'm fast-painting my black templar army for adepticon--not dip and flick, but certainly not the work i put into my warmachine armies either. i think the keys to having "quick" paint jobs are: - clean the model, especially if you're inking, b/c you don't want ink to settle into mold/flash lines - drill out the barrels/whatever is equivalent, it adds detail - do a knockout job on the bases--add rubble, etc.--make the bases look really good, this takes away from the model and is easier to do than a fancy model - conversions; if your models are converted really well and painted "quickly", the paint job won't matter as much - consistent paint scheme--uniformity has an appeal all of its own, so use that to your advantage
Really, I think if you do those things, a dipped army can look "really good".
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2006/03/10 08:05:50
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Dominating Dominatrix
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ehm, sorry, but what exactly is dipping?
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2006/03/10 08:20:56
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Regular Dakkanaut
Seattle, WA, USA
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It's basically 'Extreme Inking'. Here's a nice site with descriptions of the technique: http://www.thewarp.net/war/theforge/ogallery/krull/krull.htmlHere's my first thread on the-waaagh on dipping: http://www.the-waaagh.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12334&st=0Another thread with some close-ups of different dipped orks post-dullcoat: http://www.the-waaagh.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12658&hl=dippingOh, and hey! Who doesn't like my Big Shoota-based grenade launcha? The WHFB 'arms in the air' guys are just for my brutes tho, who I rarely use as they basically suck and only get fielded when I want to tone down my Ferals.
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2006/03/10 08:52:25
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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This is a bit off topic. Are the squigoths the 'toy dinosaurs' that people keep complaining about? If so, then the people voicing those complaints need to get a grip. Those are great pieces of conversion work.
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2006/03/10 09:02:32
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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those are but some are not which sucks to play against but since some people are stupid and think stuffed dino's with no work put into them count as squiggoths the good people like captainvyper are punished
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suck it up, space marines. You're the emperor's chosen superhuman warriors. stop whining like a guardsmen and take it like a superman! |
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2006/03/10 09:25:23
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Regular Dakkanaut
Seattle, WA, USA
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Those are great pieces of conversion work.
Thanks, I appreciate that!
It is too bad that event organizers are unwilling to kick out folks who field stuffed animals and instead decide to ban all conversion efforts. I suppose the silver lining is that my marine army is a lot easier to transport.
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2006/03/10 13:07:15
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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Speaking of rubber dino toys....Adepticon is only allowing the Squiggoth rules out of Imperial Armor for their team tournament, so guess who had to buy a nice 400 dollar squiggoth....pics to follow soon.
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2006/03/10 15:03:07
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Plastictrees
Amongst the Stars, In the Night
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Sweet armies! That goes out to da both of yas! Great looking figs. And boo on those pitching a fit on using dino's as squiggoth bases, bunch of whiney children that need to get a grip. Ugh. Worse, yer stuck buying the horrendously overpriced FW crap (great sculpts, terrible, terrible execution). Boo! Such restrictions, along with the "GW figures only" will keep me away from Adepticon (which seems odd, since it's an "indy" tourney...).
ps. Don't let robo see this, he might flip out at the idea that you can (and did) achieve quality results with dipping!
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2006/03/11 01:58:42
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Dakka Veteran
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Currently they are not anything impressive. Base them and give them a coat of matt varnish, and my opinion might change.
Dipping is an interesting technique and can produce great results if done well. These orks could have been much better if you had you given more effort to removing excess dip.
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2006/03/15 03:22:12
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
South Pasadena
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Too bad dipping won't work on Marines or CSM. Anything that speeds up my painting AND improves it's appearance is good for me.
Darrian
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2006/03/15 03:31:25
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Commanding Orc Boss
SW, Ontario, Canada
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It could work on Nurgle armies.
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2006/03/15 04:49:10
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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It can actually work on space marines, if you go to the links that Rafi provides earlier in the thread, I think its the Dysartes one, about halfway through or so is a picture of a chaos marine in blue and gold dipped that looks very nice.
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2006/03/15 05:20:30
Subject: RE<img src='desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/biggrin.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Big Grin' align='absmiddle'>IPPED ORKZ!
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Regular Dakkanaut
Shanghai China
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Posted By Darrian13 on 03/15/2006 8:22 AM Too bad dipping won't work on Marines or CSM. Anything that speeds up my painting AND improves it's appearance is good for me.
Darrian You are wrong sir, it will work on Marines or CSM, it just depends on the color scheme. I have also seen it look great on DW or other Bleached bone/white based chapters. I am finishing the last 7 models of my DG army for Adepticon and they use a "modified" dip technique in which I water down the dip with mineral spirits and use it as a wash. I then go back and do 1-3 layers of simple highlights on most of the fig. I hope to have pics up soon. I was even able to "Dip" a defiler
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2006/03/15 06:10:45
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Stabbin' Skarboy
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Whitedragon, any chance of you crossing the river to show off your ORks? I work at Medieval Starship in O-Fallon IL. Have a few guys that want to try the dip thing. You may be of some help. Would not mind seeing another ork player either. Monday nights are 40K. Let me know
Sirnotinthisfilm, thanks for the compliment on the squiggoth. Dont you fret he aint done yet, and he may just make his way into the Chi-town compititon this year. One never knows.
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2006/03/15 08:41:15
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Regular Dakkanaut
Bucharest, Romania
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Anyone have pictures of dipped Marines, Necron, or any other armies? I'd be interested in seeing how the dipping works on armies with more linear features (like armor).
-Jmz
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2006/03/15 08:51:01
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
South Pasadena
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@Big O, I don't mind being wrong, but could you please post some pictures of how CSM's look after the dip process. I would love to see the defiler. My hope is that, your process could work on Black Legion paint schemes.
Darrian
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2006/03/15 09:50:26
Subject: RE:DIPPED ORKZ!
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I dipped a marine to lead my LATD and he turned out great. I would get a picture but my camera sucks. My question is how do you go about getting the dip even. I swing my models around my head to centrifuge the excess dip off but that makes dark spots on the upper extremities of my models. Tips would be much appreciated.
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2006/03/15 15:38:01
Subject: RE: DIPPED ORKZ!
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
South Pasadena
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@Sharderblade, I hope you do not "centrifuge" in the house, someone could get hurt and I bet it is messy.
Darrian
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2006/03/15 16:36:25
Subject: RE:DIPPED ORKZ!
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Regular Dakkanaut
Shanghai China
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Posted By Darrian13 on 03/15/2006 1:51 PM @Big O, I don't mind being wrong, but could you please post some pictures of how CSM's look after the dip process. I would love to see the defiler. My hope is that, your process could work on Black Legion paint schemes.
Darrian
Darrian: The king of dipping threads is here: http://dysartes.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2056 You will find all the info and pics you'll ever need. Dipping wont do anything for your black armor, but the effect on gold or other metallics is VERY nice. The best gold(s) I have ever done are on the Defiler and dipping really works well on boltgun/chainmail. Gives it an aged look, great for Necrons, orks or nurgle especially. I promise pics of the DG tomorrow. It's too late and the baby is asleep so no go for tonight.
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2006/03/15 16:50:43
Subject: RE:DIPPED ORKZ!
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles
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Posted By SharderBlade on 03/15/2006 2:50 PM I dipped a marine to lead my LATD and he turned out great. I would get a picture but my camera sucks. My question is how do you go about getting the dip even. I swing my models around my head to centrifuge the excess dip off but that makes dark spots on the upper extremities of my models. Tips would be much appreciated.
You what?!? Shake the dip off with a flicking motion or do what whitedragon did in this thread: "I used MinWax Polyshades Antique Walnut Satin, and for my "dip stick", I glued thick straws to the inside of a paint pot lid, then I glue the model to the top of the paint pot lid, then I dip it in the stain, and then spin it between my hands upside down into my trash can. (kind like you're trying to make a fire) Comes out perfect everytime."
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