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has anyone who plays blood angels noticed the following about the blood angels?:

1) they are depicted as vampires but act nothing like them,
2) the red thirst and the black rage makes them charge headlong into combat in the fluff, but in the game they don't do anything like that,
3) they are meant to be better in combat than normal space marines but their stats are the SAME!!!

How is this news or rumors?

didnt mean to, still getting use to the website
(tbh this is my first thread)

blood guard26 wrote:has anyone who plays blood angels noticed the following about the blood angels?:

1) they are depicted as vampires but act nothing like them,
2) the red thirst and the black rage makes them charge headlong into combat in the fluff, but in the game they don't do anything like that,
3) they are meant to be better in combat than normal space marines but their stats are the SAME!!!

1) who would you suppose they did this?
2) the Black Rage used to
3) can't be done without making them over powered

1) maybe after wiping out an an enemy unit on roll a D6 on the roll of a 1 they stop to drink their blood instead of consolidating
2) y did it change
3) good point

blood guard26 wrote:
3) they are meant to be better in combat than normal space marines but their stats are the SAME!!!

Black Templars are more or less what you'd expect BA to be - they just run into combat and bash stuff.

... just minus the overwhelming bloodlust and battlefury

Are you implying that this guy:

might be currupted or evil in some way?
It's not like he's stronger than a deamon prince or anything

i reckon he's been corrupted by the daemons Ka'bandha and M'kar (as have the whole chapter and their successors)

he even has a statline that is similar to a DP

P.S I exalted this post to see what exalting does and it didn't say anything (what does it do?)

blood guard26 wrote:i reckon he's been corrupted by the daemons Ka'bandha and M'kar (as have the whole chapter and their successors)

he even has a statline that is similar to a DP

It's better. He has a higher strength and toughness, as well as TWO extra wounds.

I know, I use him all the time

btw what do you think of my signature joke (is it funny or just stupid and pointless?)


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im thinking of changing my signiture to my army's war-cry

BLOOD FOR SANGUINIUS AND KHORNE!!!

OP, the shift key, period key, and all their little punctuation buddies are your friends. Please use them.

That signature joke is as old as the Angels of Death codex back in the 90s. It's always been noted that Blood Angels really like close combat and blood, like a certain Blood God we know of. Also, Blood Angels can be made better in close combat via Sanguinary Priests and the Red Thirst. You even have Death Company who are the ones who have really gone too far and as a result are much better in close combat. I'd say the fluff and rules are on the same page there.

1. What are vampires supposed to act like?

Are you talking "Twilight" vampires, Asian Vampires, traditional European vampires (of which there are about 12 or so different variations anyway)? While many cultures have the archetype, they aren't the same.

2. Once upon a time it did. No longer. Now 40k is the mcdonalds of gaming. EVERY game is the same, and so is every marine army.

3. There is only so much you can do with a d6 game mechanic. This is why.

Legible use of English is encouraged on this board. Use of text speak ( "y u" instead of "why are you?" for example) is frowned upon and generally against board rules (which you agreed to abide by when you signed up - whether or not you read the rules first. You ticked the box, you accepted to abide by the rules).

Your sig joke is both stupid and pointless.

No-one knows how many inquisitors it takes. No witnesses.

Twilight doesn't have vampires.

If you frolic in the forest and sparkle in the sun you are a FAIRY, not a VAMPIRE.

I got into Blood Angels, before the 2nd Ed Codex was released, because the GW sales rep told the store owner, who told me, that Blood Angels were Vampire Space Marines who sometime lost control and ate the humans they were there to protect, and that it was a dark chapter secret they would kill to protect. Also they slept it coffins.

In my head that has never changed.

In the fluff they sleep in coffins, are practically immortal, and have fangs and a blood rage. Mission accomplished.

blood guard26 wrote:has anyone who plays blood angels noticed the following about the blood angels?:

1) they are depicted as vampires but act nothing like them,
2) the red thirst and the black rage makes them charge headlong into combat in the fluff, but in the game they don't do anything like that,
3) they are meant to be better in combat than normal space marines but their stats are the SAME!!!

1) They do? I have never noticed them masquerading as human while avoiding sunlight and werewolves...

2) The red thirst and the black rage do make them do this... In 5th ED, no longer though probably for game balance reasons.

3) They are better in combat than normal space marines, what is a normal marines Weapon Skill? What is the Death Company's Weapon Skill? Are normal Marines Fearless? do normal marines have Furious Charge? do normal marines have Feel No Pain? are normal marines relentless?

There is more to a marine than just its statline, though the DC have a better statline than normal marines anyway.

It is a bit like this and with space wolves

blood guard26 wrote:has anyone who plays blood angels noticed the following about the blood angels?:

1) they are depicted as vampires but act nothing like them,

You're kidding right? Do you know what the Blood Chalice was used for before they decided to give to the Sanguinary Priests as wargear on the battlefield?

I'll tell you. It was how they iniated new Marines into their ranks. They would drink Sanguinious' blood from it. How much more Vampire do you want? Also in the novels they have been known to drink the blood from their enemies.

2) the red thirst and the black rage makes them charge headlong into combat in the fluff, but in the game they don't do anything like that,

Rage used to make us do that. However the Red thirst isn't something that affects Blood Angels every single minute of every single hour.

3) they are meant to be better in combat than normal space marines but their stats are the SAME!!!

Again, you're kidding. You must be. We get furious charge for our units for one thing. Not to mention that our death company now get a +2 attack bonus when charging.



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RxGhost wrote:Twilight doesn't have vampires.

If you frolic in the forest and sparkle in the sun you are a FAIRY, not a VAMPIRE.

I exalted this. Totally love it.


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DeathReaper wrote:
2) The red thirst and the black rage do make them do this... In 5th ED, no longer though probably for game balance reasons.

Well the Death Company have rage and under 5th ed rules a lot of Blood Angel players just didn't play with Death Company. Which in my mind doesn't sit well. Under 6th I can see a lot players bringing Death Company back into their lists now that they have +2 attacks on the charge.

RxGhost wrote:Twilight doesn't have vampires.

If you frolic in the forest and sparkle in the sun you are a FAIRY, not a VAMPIRE.

Sig'd

And yeah, read some BA fluff, they are as much vampires as space wolves are werewolves!


Von Chogg

Is that a lot or not very much?

RxGhost wrote:Twilight doesn't have vampires.

If you frolic in the forest and sparkle in the sun you are a FAIRY, not a VAMPIRE.

Bahahahahaha! Sorry that was too funny! I so sig'd that.

By the way, if if you read the fluff and go look at the rules and play them the way they should be played then yes they do get a lot of bonuses in CC that other marines don't. Plus they can get there a lot faster. The Death Company is and should be the staple to your core army, if you don't have a Death Company then you are missing out on a key element to the success of your army.

I'm not comparing death company to vanilla sm, I'm comparing BA sm vs vanilla sm.

blood guard26 wrote:
3) they are meant to be better in combat than normal space marines but their stats are the SAME!!!

As a Black Templars player I kindly ask you to get real.