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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard






Vancouver, BC

Trying to figure out an Empire army. After coming to the realization that Humans aren't going to be beating Ogres, Orcs or, Elves in combat any time soon, I have decided to go with a more shooting oriented list.

LORDS:

Battle Wizard Lord - Lore of Metal, Level 4

HEROES:

Battle Wizard - Lore of Metal, Level 2, Dispell Scroll

Captain of the Empire - BSB w/ Standard of Discipline, FPA, Shield

Master Engineer - naked

Master Engineer - naked

Warrior Priest - AHW, HA, Biting Blade

CORE:

40x Halberds, Full Command

20x Handguns - Champion w/ Repeater Handgun, Musician

20x Handguns - Champion w/ Repeater Handgun, Musician

SPECIAL:

Mortar

Mortar

Great Cannon

Great Cannon

RARE:

Helblaster Volleygun

Helblaster Volleygun

-2000pts

I figure with the Engineers babysitting, the Halberds to hold off anything that does get through with the BSB + Warrior Priest, and all the WM I'm bringing, the best thing to do would be to castle up, use the Halberds to flank / absorb a charge, and ideally get some +1 hit or other nasty things with the Lore of Metal. While Lore of Metal wouldn't work well against the average Ogre or Orc, a lot of the other abilities aren't bad against the times i do run into fast moving Cavalry.

I was thinking about Pistoliers instead of the Halberds, but I need some more points in Core, and the Pistoliers probably won't cause as much problems as the Halberds could.

What are your guys thoughts?

(Oh, and when I bump it up to 2500, it'll most likely have a Steam Tank (or maybe even two?) sprinkled in with the possiblity of switching the battle wizard lord to Gelt. If I decide against it, I might throw in a witch hunter for Brace of Pistols + Mark shenanigans, or maybe add those pistoliers.)

 warboss wrote:
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I really don't see any glaring issues....It should shred most everything before it gets to you.

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Nimble Pistolier





Belfast

Well a tiny point, no point givin priest an ahw, as he cant pair it with biting blade for +1 attack, give him a shield.
I would also consider giving engineers pistols at the least, stand n shoot ciuld cause the critical wound against fast cav.
You might want to slide the ruby ring in (somehow) as an extra fireball can remove a chaff unit easy enough, as target saturation could be an issue for you...

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Knight of the Inner Circle






looks very interesting :-) see if you can squeeze some armour on the warrior priest like armour of destiny. or something like that.

also your wizard general wont last very long by humself... he needs a ward save. talisman of preservatuonbid say.

and personally id of put enchanted shield on the bsb

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The Lair of Vengeance....Poole.

So this list will be camping in a corner shooting me AND final transmutationing me every turn...

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 Lordjig6 wrote:
looks very interesting :-) see if you can squeeze some armour on the warrior priest like armour of destiny. or something like that.

also your wizard general wont last very long by humself... he needs a ward save. talisman of preservatuonbid say.

and personally id of put enchanted shield on the bsb


The Wizard General would probably be hiding in a Handgunners unit. Maybe I should drop a handgunner from each squad, since otherwise they are just standing in the back being useless. Dropping two handgunners gives me enough points to give the Wizard Lord a 6+ ward, which is better than nothing, i suppose.

japehlio wrote:Well a tiny point, no point givin priest an ahw, as he cant pair it with biting blade for +1 attack, give him a shield.
I would also consider giving engineers pistols at the least, stand n shoot ciuld cause the critical wound against fast cav.
You might want to slide the ruby ring in (somehow) as an extra fireball can remove a chaff unit easy enough, as target saturation could be an issue for you...


Thanks for the heads up on the biting blade - I've switched it to a shield. Another thought could be to drop the Warrior Priest altogether to get a level 1 Lore of Fire wizard to take Fireball, and park him with one of the Handgun units, or even just thrown in with the Halberds.

thedarkavenger wrote:So this list will be camping in a corner shooting me AND final transmutationing me every turn...


That's the idea!

So, the list looks like (atm, the Warrior Priest might drop):

Spoiler:

LORDS:

Battle Wizard Lord - Lore of Metal, Level 4, Talisman of Protection

HEROES:

Battle Wizard, Lore of Metal, Level 2, Dispell Scroll

Captain of the Empire - BSB w/ Standard of Discipline, FPA, Shield

Master Engineer - LA

Master Engineer - LA

Warrior Priest - Biting Blade, Shield, HA

CORE:

38 Halberds, Full Command

19 Handgunners, Champion w/ Repeater Handgun, Musician

19 Handgunners, Champion w/ Repeater Handgun, Musician

SPECIAL:

Mortar

Mortar

Mortar

Great Cannon

Great Cannon

RARE:

Helblaster Volleygun

Helblaster Volleygun

-1999pts


and at 2500:

Spoiler:

LORDS:

Battle Wizard Lord - Lore of Metal, Level 4, Talisman of Endurance

HEROES:

Battle Wizard - Level 2, Lore of Metal, Dispell Scroll

Captain of the Empire - BSB, Standard of Discipline, FPA, Shield

Master Engineer - Naked

Master Engineer - Naked

Warrior Priest - HA, Enchanted Shield, Ironcurse Amulet

CORE:

38 Halberdiers - Full Command

19 Handgunners - Champion w/ Repeater Handgun, Musician

19 Handgunners - Champion w/ Repeater Handgun, Musician

SPECIAL:

Great Cannon

Great Cannon

Mortar

Mortar

Pistoliers - Champion w/ Brace w/ Repeater Pistol, Musician

Pistoliers - Champion w/ Brace w/ Repeater Pistol, Musician

Rare:

Helblaster Volley Gun

Helblaster Volley Gun

Steam Tank

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/21 11:23:12


 warboss wrote:
Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
 
   
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Belfast

Do not, I repeat, NOT drop the warrior priest. Hell, if it comes to it, drop the two mortars (and take a Hellstorm instead) and free up points that way...

Mortars are still really good, you just need to run Lore of Shadow for the debuffs.
Priests, however, are crucial

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DEFINATLY DO NOT DROP THE PRIEST!!!

i would recomend that you dont take 2 metal wizards. a level 4 should be easily enough...

To be honest id recomend you take a level 4 shadow wizard and a level 2 gold...

or if your really keen on keeping the level 4 gold, switch that round, just you really will benefit from a shadow wizard.

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The main reason I wanted the level 4 Metal Wizard was to get Enchanted Blades for +1 to hit and magical armor piercing incase there's an ethereal army out there. (and because the thought of Final Transmuting a unit in the middle of an army and then making everyone around it stupid is great.)

Though, I'll definitely change the level 2 to Shadow. Maybe even drop a mortar to make him Level 4 aswell?

 warboss wrote:
Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
 
   
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no a level 2 will be fine you only need 1 lrvel 4 keep your mortar

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Personally, I would get a hurricanum and a massive block of knights if you want metal. The +1 to hit from the hurricanum combined with enchanted blades means that they will likely be hitting and wounding on 2s. If you have halberds, shadow will work better on your level 4 and a level 2 with fire or metal.

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