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2012/09/28 22:14:21
Subject: Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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Bounding Assault Marine
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Has there been anything written about those Marines who did not turn to Chaos from the Traitor marines...how they survived , did they fight on or just killed as part of a Inquisition?
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2012/09/28 22:17:55
Subject: Re:Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Yes - Guiliman took bunch of loyalist - traitors (oxymoron) and added them to the UM
Loyal Iron warriors in The Iron Within is one example,thou I don't know their fate aftewards
Alpha legion maybe....
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/09/28 22:28:50
ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2012/09/28 22:26:56
Subject: Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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Some are the first grand masters of the grey knights
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Nurgle Daemons blog
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2012/09/28 22:27:58
Subject: Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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Bounding Assault Marine
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awwww dont say that , I wanted to keep away from the Grey Knights :(
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2012/09/28 23:07:28
Subject: Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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Using Object Source Lighting
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If interested, there was a short story of an Astral Claw that attempted to undermine the Red Corsairs from inside... can't remember the name, though.
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2012/09/28 23:49:13
Subject: Re:Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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From the Heresy, most got purged at Istvaan and the few remaining ones were either executed or formed into the Grey Knights by Malcador.
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d-usa wrote:Orks are the GW version of R2D2. No matter how advanced the defenses may be, there is always an open serial port somewhere that can be pluged into and a firewall that was never configured.
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2012/09/29 00:24:06
Subject: Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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The Traitor Legions were all purged of any loyalist elements by their primarchs, so survivors of that would qualify.
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2012/10/01 12:25:17
Subject: Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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 spiralingcadaver wrote:If interested, there was a short story of an Astral Claw that attempted to undermine the Red Corsairs from inside... can't remember the name, though.
i think his name was Deady McDeathwish.
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2012/10/01 12:27:51
Subject: Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Dready McDeathwish, surely (he sort of survives, IIRC)
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2012/10/01 12:54:02
Subject: Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
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Garro. He's your man.
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2012/10/01 13:01:39
Subject: Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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There are already a few documented instances of loyalists from the traitor forces keeping true to the Emperor. The survivors from the Eisenstein being the chief example. This tale has changed over the years from being an amalgamation of these legions, including Thousand Sons, to being predominantly Death Guard in the latest version of events.
There are stories still left untold involving the fates of Nero Vipus and Saul Tarvitz on Istvaan and I am sure there will be accounts of characters never heard of before.
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2012/10/01 19:53:41
Subject: Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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Probably some of those Loyalist became the heads of new Chapters. You had to get experienced CO's from some were.
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2012/10/02 21:04:29
Subject: Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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Im pretty sure all traitor legions had loyalist contingents, some legions however were allot more thorough at purging them than others.
Its not unreasonable to assume therefore that some of the loyalist legions had traitor contingents (not just the dark angels).
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Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:All I can say is... thank you vodo40k...
Zweischneid wrote:No way man. A Space Marine in itself is scary. But a Marine WITHOUT helmet wears at least 3-times as much plot-armour as a Marine with helmet. And heaven forbid if the Marine would also happen to have an intimidating looking, vertical scar. Then you're surly boned. Those guys are the worst. Not a chance I'd say.
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2012/10/02 21:08:16
Subject: Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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I believe the poor sap gets by his corsair battle brothas.
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2012/10/04 10:59:20
Subject: Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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A bunch of Iron Warrior loyalists from one of their far-flung garrisons joined up with the Ultramarines prior to the Siege of Terra, and the Ultramarines Champion who 'recruited' them implied that other Champions were doing the same for other garrisons. The Fourth Fellowship of the Thousand Sons and their fleet left Prospero before the Space Wolves attacked...they scattered after an attack by an unknown enemy, but the command element made it back to Prospero but were wiped out by World Eaters 'cleaning up' the ruins of the City of Light. Captain Kalliston remained loyal (he renounces Magnus and his actions after he learned about them from Kharn) and was killed, but Sergeant Arvida escaped the World Eaters. He later renounces Magnus as well and is implied to be searching for other surviving Fourth Fellowship survivors so they find and fight the true cause of their legion's destruction.
EDIT: The ending of A Thousand Sons implies Magnus and Ahriman as loyal in spirit to the Emperor.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/10/04 11:07:19
I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/10/04 11:39:13
Subject: Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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 Tadashi wrote:
EDIT: The ending of A Thousand Sons implies Magnus and Ahriman as loyal in spirit to the Emperor.
but let's be serious - Rob was sending agents to gather all known loyalist in traitor legions garrisons (iron wariors age of dakness), in the Outcast Dead it is implied that loyalist TS, EC, LW, and WE have been rounded up and waiting judgment from the Emperor,in Flight of the Eisenstein there are 100 DG loyalist, and somewhere is mentioned that geneseed was gathered from loyalist traitors at Istvaan...and there is that cursed founding....
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2012/10/04 12:17:02
Subject: Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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 DarthMarko wrote: ...loyalist TS...rounded up and waiting judgment from the Empero...
Sergeant Arvida foresaw finding and rallying at best hundreds and at worst no other survivors from the Fourth Fellowship. Remember, a thousand Astartes left Prospero before the Burning, then were scattered following an attack by an unknown enemy. And Corvidae are peerless when it comes to precognition...not to mention there was only one Thousand Son in The Outcast Dead...and IIRC, they weren't loyal - they were trying to escape and rejoin their legions. Whereas Arvida was hellbent on avenging his legion - he knew the Wolves had burned Prospero, but he didn't blame them. He knew they were the consequence, not the cause of the Thousand Sons' fall. The Wolves were not his targets...
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This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2012/10/04 12:18:52
I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/10/04 12:43:47
Subject: Re:Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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Help me I cant remember, which chapter loyalist (from traitor legions) launched attack on traitors, yelling "for the emperor" on (Istvaan I think) and later they are judged on terra (which they passed) and added to the Iron Hands...
I think Iron warirors but I'm not sure,but I'm sure that I've read it...
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2012/10/04 17:41:41
Subject: Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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Alpha Legion, for we are legion, one, and Alpharius.
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2012/10/04 19:49:00
Subject: Re:Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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I truly Believe that the Alpha Legion are Loyal!!! but yeah Garro is your man!
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2012/10/05 23:07:54
Subject: Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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Were there any active loyal word bearers? I don't think I've ever heard of any.
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2012/10/05 23:18:55
Subject: Re:Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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Death Guard, Thousand Sons and Iron Warriors all had loyal elements that escaped their legions fate to an extent. Most other chaos legions cleansed theirs. Alpha legion who know?
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2012/10/06 01:14:30
Subject: Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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Regular Dakkanaut
A random ditch next to a zoo (self imposed exile)
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 Synthetik wrote:Has there been anything written about those Marines who did not turn to Chaos from the Traitor marines...how they survived , did they fight on or just killed as part of a Inquisition?
thanks
As far as I know the only material that exists about loyal 'traitor legion' Marines is on Audio Books only. There is a short story in one of the HH anthologies that has a story about Captain Qruze 'The Half Heard' who is at Rogal Dorn's side and has armour on that is mentioned only as being 'grey' but that's about it.
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"How many people here have telekenetic powers raise my hand" - The Emperor, The council of Nikae
"Never raise your hand to your children, it leaves your midsection unprotected" - The Emperor
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2012/10/06 10:21:57
Subject: Loyal to the Emporer 'Traitor Legions'
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Sniping Hexa
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 A Kvlt Ghost wrote:Were there any active loyal word bearers? I don't think I've ever heard of any.
There were but they were very effectively exterminated (mentioned in "The First Heretic").
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Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:All I can say is... thank you vodo40k...
Zweischneid wrote:No way man. A Space Marine in itself is scary. But a Marine WITHOUT helmet wears at least 3-times as much plot-armour as a Marine with helmet. And heaven forbid if the Marine would also happen to have an intimidating looking, vertical scar. Then you're surly boned. Those guys are the worst. Not a chance I'd say.
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