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In the BioWare style, I prefer for my character to deliver her/his lines a la ME. The plots are already linear (that is not itself a criticism, only a counter to BioWare's claims) so budget aside there's really no argument for not including them.

I'm on the fence about throwing out the inventory. On the one hand, it's one of the ways you customize your character. On the other hand, I like the idea of each character eventually having a signature weapon that they can customie/upgrade as the game goes on. Think of your KotORII lightsaber, for example. I think this is ultimately less generic than the standard 1000 item pickup style.

I think that RPGs really need to add more into weapon customization. Y'know, the ability to slap a scope onto something, the ability to throw a laser sight onto it and improve your accuracy, things like that. I greatly appreciate ME2 taking out the inventory system; it always seems silly to me in any RPG that you can just wander around with 80 swords shoved in your pocket, then just pile them all out on a counter and sell 'em off. However, I do think that there needs to be at least some extra equipment/weaponry you can find or buy. I like the way that Borderlands handled it - every gun is its own basic model, but each different weapons company adds its own little touch to every gun. I thought that was absolutely brilliant, considering it doesn't show up much (if at all) in today's RPGs.

I can see where you're coming from, Locclo. I'd love some more customisation for weapons in ME3 (things like scopes, scanners, improved thermal clips, and so on), but not to the ludicrous extent of ME1.

Personally, I would have preffered some more freedom in the choice of civilian clothes.

Basically I had the choice of being either:

A) A Doctor

B) A Soldier

C male) A Space-Rapper

C female) A Farmgirl

I think the space rapper/farmgirl things were ridiculous, but I was fine with just the other three outfits. I mean, you're a military man/woman, not a civvy.

Locclo wrote:...it always seems silly to me in any RPG that you can just wander around with 80 swords shoved in your pocket, then just pile them all out on a counter and sell 'em off.

This. Very funny. I may have to steal it.

Cheese Elemental wrote:
Better than having no lines at all like the DA main character.

Horses for courses. DA is a deeper game; I'd glady sacrifice Sheppards occassional quip in exchange for a hugely more intricate and rewarding dialogue. You would ask Arnold Schwarzenegger to read Shakespeare, but if Sheppards voice meant that much to you, I can't really convince you otherwise. DA for me just seemed to be a much more wholesome game in comparison to ME2, produced on a fraction of the budget. DA reeks of a game made by people who really care about their subject material.

I also like games where the main character has a voice more than games where he's silent. I've played Fable 2 the last few weeks and the RPG elements in that game are quite ... well, they're not very good.

I enjoyed DA's plot, but just like every fantasy title, it's been done too much. The same could obviously be said for Mass Effect though. The real problem with DA, in my mind, was with the gameplay. Yea, the silent dialogue was a let down, but what actually put me off was how similar it was to WoW/Diablo. Not that DA ws a bad game, but it did feel extremely stale after a few minutes, and after the first couple fights, it just seemed like a Diablo knock-off that was meant to fill the void between DII and DIII for those fans eagerly awaiting the new title (Not I).

And then the story. Sure, it's been done. But they managed to make it still 'feel' unique, much the way they did with Mass Effect. Good old Bioware Magic. The problem though is that the original story was "Kill the Archdemon - Save the world". Now this expantion shows up that changes it to "Kill the Archdemon - Don't quite save the world, but we need to generate moolah for ME3". I much preferred the main story ending right there.

It also felt like the gameplay in DA was ripped straight from Diablo II/WoW. It just felt like a space-filler for Diablo III more than anything (Sort of like how ME2 feels like a filler for ME3). For a small budet game, it -was- good. But as far as the game overall goes, I was sick of DA by the first third of the game. ME2 has managed to entertain me through one and a half playthroughs (I've gotten distracted by DoW II: CR and Cities XL ) though I guess my affection for ME2 comes partially from my love for the Sci Fi genre and my own opinion that fantasy is far too overdone in RPGs. That and, again, DA just felt like the clone child of Diablo II and WoW.

You can certainly see BioWare tried on DA, but I don't think they did any better on it than they did with ME2. I wasn't as impressed as I hoped I would be by either game, but personally, I have a much higher opinion of BioWare's efforts on ME than their work on DA.

Cheese Elemental wrote:I think the space rapper/farmgirl things were ridiculous, but I was fine with just the other three outfits. I mean, you're a military man/woman, not a civvy.

I wasn't dissing the military outfits at all. But keep 3 things in mind.

1) While taking part in an operation of a militant nature, you no longer actually serve in any military perse.

2) Depending on your personality, wearing civvy clothes could suit you entirely.

3) It wouldn't have required a great deal of effort to have a little bit more diversity in the clothing arena.

Well, you can always find or make simple mods for the PC version.

But I'm cool with my peasant console version.

I too am 'cool', as the common man says, with this console version.

I just wish they would fix the Conrad Verner bug.

Not that shooting him in the foot wasn't fun though.

What is the bug? I don't think I've ever run into it.

The fact that he always acts like you chose the Intimidate Option in your last conversion in ME1, even if your character went full Paragorn.

O...I don't think I've ever run into that problem....but that does seem like it sucks.

I prefer kneeing Conrad in the balls. Much more satisfying.

And that Asari bartender is awesome.

If you went full Paragon with Verner you were just doing it to claim you went full Paragon. No human being on Earth would choose the Paragon options naturally.

Well, I like to go test out extremes in games like this. Fact is, I talked Conrad out of the whole Specter thing without holding him at gunpoint and it bothers me that the game mixed that up.

Tyyr wrote:If you went full Paragon with Verner you were just doing it to claim you went full Paragon. No human being on Earth would choose the Paragon options naturally.

AHA!!!!!!!! THAT IS WHERE YOU ARE WRONG!!!! I choose the Paragon options.....although I must admit sometimes I chose the Renegade then reloaded so I would be Paragon.........Renegade shepard is BAD ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anung Un Rama wrote:Well, I like to go test out extremes in games like this. Fact is, I talked Conrad out of the whole Specter thing without holding him at gunpoint and it bothers me that the game mixed that up.

I tend to play it down the middle. Occasionally pointing guns at people when the situation warrants it, being a goody two shoes when it seems the fastest way to my objective. Unfortunately that tends to leave me in a weird place with Bioware games. Not as in the lurch as it did in KotOR but still not quite getting the really fun stuff as going full angel or full psycho.

Cheese Elemental wrote:I prefer kneeing Conrad in the balls. Much more satisfying.

And that Asari bartender is awesome.

Indeed “I once saw a Krogan drink a liquidised Turian on a dare ”

God where did she get the turian?

Tyyr wrote:If you went full Paragon with Verner you were just doing it to claim you went full Paragon. No human being on Earth would choose the Paragon options naturally.

I went full Paragon naturally...

metallifan wrote:

Tyyr wrote:If you went full Paragon with Verner you were just doing it to claim you went full Paragon. No human being on Earth would choose the Paragon options naturally.

I went full Paragon naturally...

Thats a good thing! Why would you regret that?!?!?!?....well....I didn't regret it.

I regret it because I wasn't aware you could knee Verner in the sack until I read the comment on this page.

Lol...I don't really remember who verner is....so I'm not going to comment on how annoying/pesky however you wish to describe him as you guys seem to say.

Konrad Verner. He's the blonde guy in the Citadel Market in ME1 that wanted your autograph and your picture and all that.

O okay.....I remember him now.....he wasn't that annoying....but then again.....I haven't played the game since it first came out.

But If I remember right he WAS a little and the annoying side. But I was a paragon so i just delt with is and moved on.

He was more creepy in a serial killer way. But I was definately like "Oh WTF, you -annoying- P.O.S.! Get out of my game already!" when I saw him standing there in N7 Armour at the bar

WOAH!!!!!! He had N7 ARMOUR!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? ....alright that'd tick me off...If I ever caught him in that I'd probably Call upon the powers of the emperor to bring him into existance then....Knee him in the sack XD