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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 10:13:07
Subject: Magma Cutter question
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On a Canoptek Spyder's Waiting List
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So I might be missing something but i need a second opinion.
A Maulerfiend is equipped with TWO magma cutters. In the description for magma cutters it says if you hit with a attack you get a bonus attack with one of its magma cutters. It then says If you hit with all of your attacks it instead makes 2 additional attacks.
I expect it was intended to be a bonus 1 or 2 attacks total for the magma cutters. The verbage on the rules leads me to believe that it can be interpreted that since the maulerfiend has TWO magma cutters that it would recieve either 2 or 4 bonus attacks with them. Opinions?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 10:48:44
Subject: Magma Cutter question
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Nope, you only get to make the attacks with "one of its magma cutters". I imagine it has two cutters for redundancy, in case one gets destroyed. It also makes the power fists less likely to be damaged from a Weapon Destroyed result.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 10:53:26
Subject: Magma Cutter question
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Well, this is indeed weird. In lasher tendrils it clearly tells us what one tendril does. What will one Magma Cutter do?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 12:10:57
Subject: Magma Cutter question
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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one magna cutter does 1 S8 Ap1 attack.
It has 2 cutters.
If you hit with ONE normal attack, it uses ONE cutter. If you hit with ALL your attacks, you also hit with ALL (both) your cutters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 15:00:35
Subject: Magma Cutter question
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Morphing Obliterator
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Praxiss wrote:one magna cutter does 1 S8 Ap1 attack.
It has 2 cutters.
If you hit with ONE normal attack, it uses ONE cutter. If you hit with ALL your attacks, you also hit with ALL (both) your cutters.
This. Also magma cutters aren't really worth it unless you are going against vehicles since the attack is resolved against a model who was hit previously that would mean that it only works for models with T6+, EW, lucky Invul save or vehicles that didn't get destroyed.
Sadly facing a MC or a walker would probably see your Maulerfiend destroyed before you get to I1 step
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 16:56:22
Subject: Magma Cutter question
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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Lord Yayula wrote: Praxiss wrote:one magna cutter does 1 S8 Ap1 attack.
It has 2 cutters.
If you hit with ONE normal attack, it uses ONE cutter. If you hit with ALL your attacks, you also hit with ALL (both) your cutters.
This. Also magma cutters aren't really worth it unless you are going against vehicles since the attack is resolved against a model who was hit previously that would mean that it only works for models with T6+, EW, lucky Invul save or vehicles that didn't get destroyed.
Sadly facing a MC or a walker would probably see your Maulerfiend destroyed before you get to I1 step
The maulerfiend should be I3 in most cases unless it charges through difficult terrain. Doesn't it count as a walker and therefore ignore the Unwieldy rule?
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"Better have one flexible neck to be making that shot," Bob said.
"You only assume the Balefire is coming out of his mouth, Bob. In my world, the Heldrake is pooping daemonic fire on your troops as it jets away from their mangled and now burning corpses." -John
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 17:40:50
Subject: Magma Cutter question
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The melta attacks happen at I1.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 18:13:21
Subject: Magma Cutter question
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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GW is getting loose with its language again.
"...against one of the models it hit."
I understand (I think) the intent of the rule, but this is strangely worded.
Except in the case of single model units you dont roll to hit against models. You hit units. So do you resolve it against a model that rolled a save or took the wound?
How does it interact with Look Out Sir ? Say the wound would be allocated to a character but he passes his LOS! roll and another model takes the wound? Does the magma cutter hit the character or the model that took the wound?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 18:34:15
Subject: Magma Cutter question
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Morphing Obliterator
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Mmmm didn't think about the LoS interaction but for the rest yeah I'd assume the model that takes a wound/takes a save was the model who was hit by it, making it pretty selective against which targets the magma cutters would work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 07:39:48
Subject: Magma Cutter question
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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It sounds as if they were thinking along the lines of the Fiend punching a model to the ground, if it survives then the magna cutters would then chop them them up while they are down. Very cinematic.
presumably it works in peopels heads but doesn't translate well into actual rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/12 02:12:19
Subject: Magma Cutter question
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Clarification here. The magma cutters are not actually close combat weapons, correct ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/12 05:00:04
Subject: Magma Cutter question
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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It does not have the melee type in its profile.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/12 06:14:57
Subject: Magma Cutter question
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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they're nto listed as melee weapons but in their listign on page 68 it states they have a range of "-" - and they are only activated in the "Fight sub-phase".
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