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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/08 21:04:30
Subject: 1750 GK Competitive need help! (Updated last post)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hey guys first time poster and still a new player.. Here is my list for competitive play, im still trying lists before i buy all these models. Help me make it better! I know most super competitive lists run all sorts of razor spam but three is the Max I can handle. I wanted to still include the units I'm having the most fun with: purifiers, assassins and the raven!
Inquisitor Coteaz
Ordo Inquisitor
rad grenades; psychotroke grenades.
10x Purifiers
5x halberd (1 MC), 1x hammer, 4x incinerator
3× Crusader; 7× Assassin.
3× Servitor (3× plasma cannon); 5× Warrior (5× boltgun)
3× Warrior
• Razor, Psyammo
3× Warrior
• Razor, Psyammo
3× Warrior
• Razor, Psyammo
Stormraven
MM, Hurricane Bolter, AC, Psyammo
Stormraven
MM, Hurricane Bolter, AC, Psyammo
PsyDreadnought
PsyDreadnought
PsyDreadnought
1750.
Tactics:
Coteaz with the plasma henchmen @ home objective
Ordo with the assassins in a raven
Purifiers in a raven
Psydread for anti tank / more defensive role
Razor teams for objectives and annoyance
I had a hard time deciding to get the second raven for the purifiers or put them into a basic land raider. And also which way to fit the second raven. Cheaper raven means psycannons in the purifiers but the incinerators may be worth keeping for anti-horde. Would like some input for those with more experience.
Let me know!
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anyone?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/09 15:40:55
Subject: 1750 GK Competitive need help! (Updated list last post)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/11/10 04:23:26
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/09 16:17:22
Subject: Re:1750 GK Competitive need help!
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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I think your scoring units are quite fragile. I mean the purifiers im assuming are going to go on the attack along with the ordo inq and his assassins so really your leaving your 3 man warrior teams to claim. and i can see them getting popped pretty easily even with a razor. But that's just me. Very different to my GK list but i don't know your play style so it might work for you.Then again your servitor squad is a decent size, i just dont think there is too much survivability. Flamers and such will really damage your troop choices.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/09 16:57:13
Subject: Re:1750 GK Competitive need help!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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thanks for the reply. What is your suggestion to this list? the razors i would keep far back or even in reserve and the dreads could hopefully stop any advancement towards the plasma group. Beef up the size of the teams and put them in chimeras? or do i ditch the purifiers and some henchmen for 2 10 man SS squads?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/09 17:26:45
Subject: 1750 GK Competitive need help!
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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Eclipseone wrote:
Inquisitor Coteaz
hope you take divination
Ordo Inquisitor
rad grenades; psychotroke grenades.
10x Purifiers
5x halberd (1 MC), 1x hammer, 4x incinerator
IMHO you dont need the halberd MC, and change the incins to psycannons
3× Crusader; 7× Assassin.
put axes on the crusaders and sword&axe or sword&maul on the DCA
3× Servitor (3× plasma cannon); 5× Warrior (5× boltgun)
change plasmacannons to one of the other guns, this way if you have to move you can atleast snapfire and you can overwatch
3× Warrior
• Razor, Psyammo
3× Warrior
• Razor, Psyammo
3× Warrior
• Razor, Psyammo
dunno how razors fair with 6th ed rules but should be alright
Stormraven
MM, Hurricane Bolter, AC, Psyammo
Stormraven
MM, Hurricane Bolter, AC, Psyammo
I hate psyammo and hurricane bolters on ravens, makes them cost too much IMHO, I'd drop those and get a LC ontop
PsyDreadnought
PsyDreadnought
PsyDreadnought
good stuff
1750.
i might try to squeeze in a aegis line to help with you home objective
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/10 04:37:55
Subject: Re:1750 GK Competitive need help! (Updated last post)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Okay with everything taken into consideration and maybe a bold move, I'm not sure.. I dropped the razor spam. Ill do another list after this but I think this list has some serious jam.
1748
Inquisitor Coteaz w/div
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor
rad grenades.
Venerable PsyDreadnought
10 GKStrike Squad
2x psycannon, 3x hammer, psyammo
10 GKStrike Squad
2x psycannon, 3x hammer, psyammo
7 Inquisitorial Henchmen
3× Inquisitorial Servitor (3× plasma cannon); 4× Warrior Acolyte (4× storm bolter).
10 Inquisitorial Henchmen
3× Crusader (axes) 7× Death Cult Assassin (sword/axe)
Stormraven w/ TLHB, TLLC
PsyDreadnought
PsyDreadnought
Dreadknight w/ heavy incinerator
Well here is something different. Still get the three PsyDreadnoughts; one is 60 points more but I think the opened heavy slot is a nice place to put a dreadknight. Tons of heavy targets to shoot in this list and most likely take heat off the scoring units.
Tactics:
Coteaz with his plasma/ storm bolter guys at home
Strikes will slog and shoot anything they need to and if they get into CC.. Smash guys into nothing
Assassin/Crusader team in the raven with Ordo
Dreadknight for general bullet magnet and anti-horde/ MC killer
Dreadnoughts I'm not quite sure how to play now with the loss of my tanks, I think maybe run one with each SS squad or maybe just sit em back and laser things.
Let me know guys. I feel I'm getting more creative but hopefully still competitive
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/10 09:01:57
Subject: 1750 GK Competitive need help! (Updated last post)
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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Wow, this is almost identical to my 1750 grey knights lol. Only for me I have a teleporter on my dreadknight and three 10 man strike squads, as they are very solid units. If anything I would drop the ven dread as its not really needed for something else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/10 12:20:51
Subject: Re:1750 GK Competitive need help! (Updated last post)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hmm.. Good points. I really wanted that third dread, the down side is the Dk comes from reserves and the added dread can really put some hurt down. I'm still undecided on the raven and the assassin group. GM to make the dreads score,Maybe more gkss, aegis line or even some pallies. Ideas?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/11 00:47:36
Subject: 1750 GK Competitive need help! (Updated last post)
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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Aegis line could be helpful, I play a more aggressive game than gunline so it doesn't suit my style of play. I cant comment to much as have not used my assassin group and raven yet. I would keep the raven, as its a very good tank killer for me, and with the assault ramp, its sometimes good to have a unit.
Give the raven multi-melta over heavy bolter.
A techmarine with nads would be a good addition to the assassin group.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/11 01:25:54
Subject: Re:1750 GK Competitive need help! (Updated last post)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Well boys I think we're getting there. Tough for me to give up the tanks so bear with.
Inquisitor Coteaz w/div
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor
rad grenades.
10 Grey Knights SS w/ 2x psycannon, 1x halberd, psyammo
10 Grey Knights SS w/ 2x psycannon, 1x halberd, psyammo
10 Grey Knights SS w/ 2x psycannon, 1x halberd, psyammo
9 Inquisitorial Henchmen
3× Crusader (axes), 6× Death Cult Assassin (sword/axe)
7 Inquisitorial Henchmen
3× Inquisitorial Servitor (3× plasma cannon); 4× Warrior Acolyte (2× storm bolter; 2× plasma gun).
Stormraven w/TLMM, TLLC
PsyDreadnought
PsyDreadnought
Dreadknight w/heavy incinerator.
I think we got something nasty here. I'd like to afford a gun line but can't see where id cut the points. Ordo is there with grenades for the assassins. I am also a little confused how to play the dread knight and if I'd benefit from 3 instead one 1 and 2 psy dreads. Also some tips on when to combat squad my SS teams.
Thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/11 01:35:10
Subject: Re:1750 GK Competitive need help! (Updated last post)
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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Very strong list
Last thing I would do is take out one assassin to put 1 hammer on each strike squad. Halberd for the justicar.
Combat squad when you need more scoring bodies, ie multiple objectives.
The only other thing I can comment is for the other henchman group, you can get away with just 3 plasma cannon servitors, storm bolters are a waste imho, boltguns are better. And the servitors will want to stay stationary, the acolytes moving. Its up to you though.
This is uch better than your first list though, have fun using it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/12 04:26:32
Subject: Re:1750 GK Competitive need help! (Updated last post)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Alright so I've fixed up the last list to include hammers! Thanks for all the help. Now to add some flavour to this thread:
What do you guys think about the ally choices BA/SM/SW? (No ig)
I thought maybe since my list doesn't so much have a disruption unit.. A drop pod full of something could be cool. Problem is to find said drop pod we'd have to lose the raven and the assassins.
Add your thoughts!
Sterns with combi-madness pod
Wolf Guard pod
BA pod of some sort
Or other ideas to remain in the competitive spirit!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/12 04:31:17
Subject: 1750 GK Competitive need help! (Updated last post)
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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well if you go pod allies, vanilla marines could work with pedro, 1 stern squad and a few tact squads in a pod so their all scoring
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/12 15:25:12
Subject: Re:1750 GK Competitive need help! (Updated last post)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Something about Pedro being on the list makes it almost feel like the grey knights are helping him out lol. I do like the sterns so maybe. BA could work. What you guys think?
Also I'd like to ask what your opinions are on 3 dreadknight vs 3 PsyDread. I feel 2 psy and one DK is the right number but some of these competition guys are going with basic Dk with flamer x3
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