Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
Times and dates in your local timezone.
Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.
2012/11/12 20:37:07
Subject: Alpharius and Omegon Discussion - Possible Spoilers!
I’m not much for being underhanded or duplicitous, so I often have to pay very close attention to any Alpha Legion stuff. I know everyone just loved the Legion HH book, but it was really boring to me…not to mention confusing. So, on to the point of my post…
What the heck is Oemgon up to? I really have no idea. Alpharius seems to be following the directions that he and his twin established, and seems to be working with Horus in order to bring about the Emperor’s death, thereby causing Chaos to be triumphant, Humanity dies, then Chaos burns out.
BUT…
Spoiler:
When Omegon went after the big xenos pylon complex that can disrupt the Warp (I’m thinking Necrons), he destroys it, instead of letting Horus have it. Why? If he’s working with Alpharius, and wants to bring about the destruction of the Emperor and Humanity, so that everything else in the galaxy can survive, why would he destroy it?
Why does he have that little statement at the end of the story where he is the “snake in the grass”, and seems to be actively opposing his brother?
Why does he have another suit of Power Armor that "no one will ever see"?
Is he working for Chaos, and wants Humanity to survive so that Chaos can reign forever? Is he trying to secretly stop his brother and Horus? Is he really a mole planted in the Legion?
What’s going on here?
Discuss...
I can still remember when a box of 30 Space Marines was $30.00. Now THAT'S old school! In fact, I started playing in the Rogue Trader days...yes, I am that old. Played Warhammer Fantasy for years before Rogue Trader even came out...
6,800 Pts. Ultramarines, 1,500 Pts. Deathwatch, 1,000 Pts. Black Templars, 1,000 Pts. Blood Ravens, 1,000 Pts. Emperors Children, 2,000 Pts. Word Bearers, 3,500 Pts. Eldar (Alaitoc or Biel-tan), 2,000 Pts. Tau, 2,000 Pts. Sisters of Battle, 999 Pts. of Thousand Sons, 1,000 Points Dark Eldar, 1,000 Points Adeptus Arbites, 1,000 Points Freebooters, 1,000 Points "Last Chancers", 1,000 Points Tyranids, 1,000 Points Necrons
2,500 Pts. Brotherhood, 2,000 Pts. Undead, 2,000 Pts. Sylvan Kin Elves, 2,000 Pts. Empire of Dust, 3,000 Pts. Orcs with Goblin Allies
5 Necromunda Gangs, 10 Mordheim Warbands, and 5 Frostgrave warbands
2012/11/12 21:19:48
Subject: Re:Alpharius and Omegon Discussion - Possible Spoilers!
Here are my thoughts on the subject, that I wrote elsewhere previously:
*Legion and The Primarchs spoilers*
Spoiler:
Recent Horus Heresy novels appear to display a 'split' within the Legion, particularly in The Serpent Beneath (The Primarchs) and this is the interpretation I intend to follow.
At the end of this story, Omegon mentions "The Third Paradox" presented in the vision/"acuity" shown to them by the Cabal.
The first two paradoxi (everything sounds better plural with 'i') are that the Emperor will live and the Imperium will stagnate and succumb to Chaos, dooming the galaxy, or that Horus will win, realise what he's done and destroy humanity and Chaos, saving the galaxy. Obviously, it's suggested that Alpharius and Omegon accepted this and so followed Horus to try and save the galaxy and destroy Chaos, acknowledging that although they are turning against the Emperor, The Emperor's main aim was to destroy Chaos.
What then, is the third paradox?
To me, the third paradox is that they are wrong to fight Chaos - both the Cabal and the Emperor - and that Chaos should be embraced, rather than destroyed. Humanity can unite under Chaos and grow powerful as a result. What if Chaos is the only way for humanity to survive in the galaxy, the only way to overcome the Tyranids, the Necrontyr, the Orks and the Young Races?
...
Additionally, when conversing with the cabal after being presented the vision/acuity, it was Alpharius, not Omegon, who did most of the talking and proclaimed their loyalty to the Emperor's main aim of destroying Chaos.
So whilst Alpharius was seeking to support Horus, Omegon instead may sought to have him fail (The Serpent Beneath). Afterall, how can two brothers, of such power as Alpharius and Omegon, remain on the same level, the same path through life, when all around them their brothers turn against one another? It's hard to see them remaining united in such a way, when all around them turns to chaos.
'[Trust] is most precious - and strongest - when it occurs naturally. Like between brothers,' Alpharius said.
'Tell that to Horus,' Omegon muttered.
'Fair point,' he conceded, 'Trust can be hard to come by, even amongst the closest of kin,' Alpharius let the point hang between them before moving on. From The Primarchs.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of." - Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now." - Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
