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Hey all, I just have a few questions concerning putting together a WH30k list.

1. If you take a Legion Praetor with the "Pride of the Legion" rite of battle, can a Sons of Horus army take Justaerin Squads as Troops?

2. Aside from the specific restrictions with some of the Consul upgrades, there's no problem giving Legion Centurions any wargear correct? Essentially I'm just wondering if there'd be an issue with making a Cataphractii armoured Centurion a Primus Medicae?

3. Unless I'm missing something it seems like the Dreadclaw drop pod is just a regular flyer with the ability to deepstrike. Is this correct or am I missing something?

Sorry for the potentially pointless questions, couldn't find definite answers in the book.

1. No. It is a separate unit and choice. Terminators anyway scoring, see Implacable Advance.
2. What surprises you? In the books of 40k and HH there are many apothecaries in the TDA.
3. yes and also Assault Vehicle.

 Darog wrote:


1. No. It is a separate unit and choice. Terminators anyway scoring, see Implacable Advance.
2. What surprises you? In the books of 40k and HH there are many apothecaries in the TDA.
3. yes and also Assault Vehicle.

Sorry I should have explained some of my reasoning in the op.

1. I was inclined to agree with you but the Rite of Battle only specifies Veteran or Terminator Squads, not the specific Legion Terminator Squad. There are three separate squads in the book which are "Terminator Squads". Legion, Justaerin and Deathshroud.
I know they're all scoring but I want to build a full Justaerin detachment without the need for a pair of Legion Terminators.

2. I was pretty sure this was ok, but this is the one time I can remember which allows a Terminator to take a pistol (Needle Pistol). I thought it odd.

3. This is a very interesting entry. I think I'll have to construct a few of these at the cost they're a bit of a steal.

 Voodoo_Chile wrote:

 Darog wrote:


1. No. It is a separate unit and choice. Terminators anyway scoring, see Implacable Advance.
2. What surprises you? In the books of 40k and HH there are many apothecaries in the TDA.
3. yes and also Assault Vehicle.

Sorry I should have explained some of my reasoning in the op.

1. I was inclined to agree with you but the Rite of Battle only specifies Veteran or Terminator Squads, not the specific Legion Terminator Squad. There are three separate squads in the book which are "Terminator Squads". Legion, Justaerin and Deathshroud.
I know they're all scoring but I want to build a full Justaerin detachment without the need for a pair of Legion Terminators.

2. I was pretty sure this was ok, but this is the one time I can remember which allows a Terminator to take a pistol (Needle Pistol). I thought it odd.

3. This is a very interesting entry. I think I'll have to construct a few of these at the cost they're a bit of a steal.

1. Wording:

Veteran and TerminatOr squads are Troops choices in the force, and units of eilher of these types must be selecled as the force's compulsory Troops selections.

Veteran squad - p 194
TerminatOr squad - p 196

In addition to those found in the Crusade army list, the Sons of Horus Legion has particular access to two
additional units: Justaerin Terminator Squads and Dreadclaw Drop Pods. Justaerin Terminator squads may
be chosen as Elite options for a Sons of Horus Space Marine Legion force, or replace Command squads,
while the Dreadclaw Drop Pod is a Dedicated Transport.

I see no legitimate reason to put them in troop choice.

2.Similarly librarian replaces his sword to force weapon.

There is an example of a terminator with a pistol - Njal.

3. By the way, note that in the version for HH there is no rule that mandates enter play via deep strike. Compare with the rules from Imperial Armour Aereonautica.

 Darog wrote:


1. Wording:

Veteran and TerminatOr squads are Troops choices in the force, and units of eilher of these types must be selecled as the force's compulsory Troops selections.

Veteran squad - p 194
TerminatOr squad - p 196

In addition to those found in the Crusade army list, the Sons of Horus Legion has particular access to two
additional units: Justaerin Terminator Squads and Dreadclaw Drop Pods. Justaerin Terminator squads may
be chosen as Elite options for a Sons of Horus Space Marine Legion force, or replace Command squads,
while the Dreadclaw Drop Pod is a Dedicated Transport.

I see no legitimate reason to put them in troop choice.

Oh I fully agree they are different entries but my argument is that there is no "Terminator Squad" entry. (Or Veteran Squad entry for that matter). There is a Legion Terminator Squad and a Justaerin/Deathshroud Terminator Squad entry depending on the Legion you are running.

Looking into it further, the Legion Terminator Squad has the Prototype Weaponry special rule. This is a lot of fluff but
Legion Terminator Squads belonging to a particular Legion may also have access to other weapons configurations and wargear options. If this is the case, then these will be noted in their specific Legion Entries.

The above would seem to indicate they're equivalent though it may just relate to other pieces of wargear members of a Legion might take.