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Hello again Dakkites!

After posting and receiving your feedback, it comes down to 2 similar yet essentially different lists. I need your help to decide which is better as a TAC list and worth taking with me in a tourney..
The first uses 2 full sternguard squads and the the second swaps one for a space wolves detachment.

LIST 1:

HQ
Librarian Avenger, GOI

Troops
Tactical Squad w/ flamer, ML, combi-flamer, Rhino
Tactical Squad w/ meltagun, MM, combi-melta, Rhino
5x Scouts w/ Sniper Rifles

Elites
10x Sternguard w/ 4x combi-melta, 3x combi-plasma, 2x combi-flamer, Drop Pod w/ locator beacon
10x Sternguard w/ 4x combi-melta, 3x combi-plasma, 2x combi-flamer, Drop Pod w/ locator beacon


Fast Attack
Stormtalon Gunship w/ TL Lascannon

Heavy Support
Predator auto/las
Thunderfire Cannon w/Drop Pod, locator beacon
Thunderfire Cannon w/Drop Pod, locator beacon


Obviously, Pod the Sterns 1st turn, combat squad them (if necessary) and try to take out biggest threats or de-mech the opponent. Then the Thunderfires can be used to maximum effect.
The reason i take 4 pods is to have the choice to pod the Sterns either on turn 1 or turn 2, depending on game and the opponents deployment (if he bubble-wraps dangerous units with troops, perhaps my other army will be able to punch some holes for the Sterns to arrive later)
Also, i can abuse Gate of Infinity and travel around the board safely with all these beacons.



LIST 2:



HQ
Librarian Avenger, GOI

Troops
Tactical Squad w/ flamer, ML, combi-flamer, Rhino
Tactical Squad w/ meltagun, MM, combi-melta, Drop Pod
5x Scouts w/ Sniper Rifles, camo cloaks

Elites
10x Sternguard w/ 6x combi-melta, 2x combi-plasma, 2x combi-flamer, Drop Pod


Fast Attack
Stormtalon Gunship w/ TL Lascannon

Heavy Support
Predator auto/las
Thunderfire Cannon
Thunderfire Cannon


Space Wolves Allies:

Rune Priest
9x Grey Hunters w/ meltagun, powerfist in Drop Pod
Predator auto/las


The wolves pod along with Sterns 1st turn, the tactical squad pods later on objectives according to need.
Now, i lose the second sternguard squad and gain a Rune Priest for divination-prescience (TL sternguard !) and psychic protection, a troop squad that is better in melee and worse in shooting and an extra auto/las predator.


What do you think? Is it better to have more bodies or a nastier alpha strike?
Any help and recomendations are most welcome, i must decide what to do..

Thanks!

The rune priest won't be able to join the sterns in the pod since allies can't embark on friendly vehicles...
He can join afterwards of course, and yes, I like the idea of TL sternguards shots.

Yes of course, he rides with the rest of the wolves.
Prescience can be cast 12'' away.

Which list do you prefer?

PErsonally I like list 1, although I would add teleport homers to the Drop pods to increase the accuracy of the GOI!

I'd also see if I could squeeze Pedro in their, he's a beast and he makes Sternguard scoring

I also like list 1 better: 2 sternguard squads is awesome!

Can the Rune Priest cast spells on his allies?

As for the lists, they look fun. Dual thunderfire cannons will be nasty. Never thought of the tactic of the Librarian & the pods' beacons; sounds neat. Looking forward to seeing how these lists play.

Yes, the powers target "friendly units" and since SM and Wolves are battle brothers, it can be done.

Yes, the powers target "friendly units" and since SM and Wolves are battle brothers, it can be done.

Oh man, I've been playing that wrong!

I like list 1 as well. If you wind up taking list 2, keep in mind prescience (along with the rest of the blessings) has to be cast at the beginning of your turn so you won't be able to get TL Sterngard on turn 1. They both look like fun lists!

Thank you for the clarification, i did not have that in mind...
I suppose that it can not be done since they are in the pods at the beginning of the turn?

I see that you favor the 2 stern squads lists as well, but why ??
Can you elaborate on that?

Well, I voted for Sternguard. Very nasty alpha strike list.

Come on Dakka!

183 views and only 5 votes??
Is that so hard a dilemma??

Vote and explain your vote pls!

The Imperium needs your advice!!

I am a fan of Pedro Kantor when I am using more than one squad of Sternguard. I like the top list a bit better myself.

That is an alternative i am considering myself, dropping the locator beacons etc. for Pedro.
I am not a fan of losing combat tactics though, and i have never fielded an army without it. This is the first time i consider anything else than a Libby. I notice now in 6th less close combat in my games and maybe it is time to try out one of the special characters.

With the Libby i get:
- the possibility to gate around the board
- some (not that good) psychic protection
- an awesome template attack
- combat tactics

With Cantor i get:
- scoring Sterns!
- +1 attack
- orbital borbardment
- better CC abilities

Under scrunity, it seems Pedro wins...
But i still feel something is amiss..

Pedro's combat tactics arent brilliant, nor really is he, his buffs are though, plus 1 attack to marines within 12inches means sternguard get 4 attacks each on charge!, and sarg 5 if you kit him with two CC weapons.

Does Kantor get orbital borbardment? never used that at all in any game to be honest, maybe I should do!, I like using pedro and vulkan and taking vulkans combat tactics kit out 10 sternguard with 8 combi flamers, 2 heavy flamers is one mean unit! and another with combi meltas.

I was using a libby in a drop pod list last night, went on pryomancy twice, and got the 2d6 str 4 ap 5 ignores cover powers both times and was against guard, now that wasnt bad!

Yes, as a chapter master, he gets the orbital bombardment