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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/08 20:50:35
Subject: Vallejo rust pigment usage
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I had picked up this pack of vallejo pigments that gave me 4 different colored pigments to do rust effect. From what ive hear you use the pigments starting with dark and going to light.
Now my question is when you use the pigments do you apply a color then use the rubbing alcohol and let it dry and then use a lighter color and then apply the alcohol. Then you repeat until you use whatever the lightest color is or last color is.
Or do you apply each color from darkest to light and then use the alcohol after you've applied each color on?
Ive never used pigments before and Ive tried looking the video up but have not found anything that helps.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 20:54:37
Subject: Re:Vallejo rust pigment usage
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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No one uses pigments?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 21:27:41
Subject: Re:Vallejo rust pigment usage
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I use pigments
You are on the right path working from dark to light and mixing with alcohol as a fixer. You can use the pigments dry then using a large soft brush run the alcohol into the pigment to fix it, try not to move the brush around at this stage just load it up with a heavy amount of alcohol and dab it onto the surface. Using this technique you can mix the various pigments together before adding alcohol. Be aware that the pigments will darken once they are fixed. You can pretty much use anything to turn the pigments to a paint mix, water, alcohol, turpentine, white spirit, acrylic varnish, water is the least secure and the pigments can be rubbed off to reduce the effect once dry, varnish will fix it permanantly in place. You can also mix pigment with an oil paint wash, use a dark brown - raw umber or similar and with a thinned mix 80/20 thinner to paint wash it over the surface then you can add small amounts of rust pigments into the wash.
These are some of my experiments with pigments
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 21:36:18
Subject: Vallejo rust pigment usage
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Sneaky Lictor
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The empire needs to look into a maintenace shop, Seriously though, the rust looks awesome guy.
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On building Tyranid army flow chart.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/10 03:10:54
Subject: Re:Vallejo rust pigment usage
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Thanks a lot for that! helps a lot and Ive had the pigments for a week and havent used them yet because I tried them on a tank and I didnt exactly get a good result lol. I also love that scratch work with that dread, are they painted on free hand or do you use a sponge or stippling brush for that. Sorry for the questions lol Ive just started to get into the whole weathering and am trying to get the best results outta whatever I got lol. I also am starting up a space wolves detachment and I love the work on that land raider, its basically what Im trying to get with my Leman russ battle tanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/10 19:29:41
Subject: Vallejo rust pigment usage
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Fresh-Faced New User
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The paint chipping is a mix of techniques, some is sponge/freehand but the major part is using the hairspray technique.
This involves spraying your base colour - in this case gunmetal/silver mix followed by a coat of varnish, I used Klear which is well known in modelling circles but any gloss varnish will work. The next stage involves hairspray, you can use any old hairspray just spray it into a small bottle and then put it in your airbrush. You can buy ready made 'chipping fluid' from AK products but hairspray still works. Spray the hairspray onto the model over your base colour, let it dry then spray your top colour over it - in my case blue. Let this dry and then you can go back with an old brush, wet the brush and start scrubbing at the blue paint. The hairspray allows the blue to lift and adds realistic chips. You can also use toothpicks, etc to add fine scratches, etc at this stage too. Once you are happy with it give it a coat of varnish again and then head onto adding washes, pigments and other weathering.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/10 19:55:04
Subject: Re:Vallejo rust pigment usage
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Thats what I had figured because anytime I see someone use that technique it always turns out really nice, Thanks again for the help.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/10 20:21:20
Subject: Vallejo rust pigment usage
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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I wrote about my experiences with pigments a while back. Maybe there's something in there to help you :-)
http://ik-painter.blogspot.de/2011/10/tools-of-trade-vi-weathering-powders.html
Cheers!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/10 22:37:59
Subject: Re:Vallejo rust pigment usage
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Ahh thanks I appreciate the help as well! I started my first tank and I probably applied to much in spots. I have to just work on getting the powder to now spread so much lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/11 07:05:47
Subject: Vallejo rust pigment usage
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
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i just use them ad random but i do like the really rusty texture it adds to the model!
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