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I personally like the less daemonic distorted face on this - how it gives it that deadpan menace. Like the dread you feel when you see Jason in halloween - emotionless cold calculating murderous psychopath.

I think if I left the pads off it needed more of a slavering manic face - without the pads made it look rabid and manic.

I will agree though - in some photos it looks kinda large. In others it doesn't. And strangely, in real life it doesn't look out of place to me at all. But in photos I will agree it does a bit. Me and the wife were talking about that last night - it's weird. I don't get how that works... Maybe its something to do with how my new camera focuses. Dunno.

Have you considered doing a partial mask instead? Like not covering the bottom jaw, or having larger eye holes or something? Just curious...

Shoulderpads bulk it out - good move including them. Head looks more in proportion as a result.

I'd almost say add some more GS to the shoulder pads, make them even bigger or something.

gameandwatch wrote:Have you considered doing a partial mask instead? Like not covering the bottom jaw, or having larger eye holes or something? Just curious...

that sounds AWESOME.

gameandwatch wrote:Have you considered doing a partial mask instead? Like not covering the bottom jaw, or having larger eye holes or something? Just curious...

To do that I would have to practically destroy the current head and start again. I'm not sure if I'm ready for that kind of commitment at this point in our relationship...lol

I suppose I might be able to cut the horns off the head in such a way as to allow me to re-affix them at a later stage without too much hassle if I don't like the effect. I'll have a think about it.

The helm is fine I think, like a gladiator or Masta-Blasta from MM3.

I feel the aesthetic is very in keeping with Iron Warriors.

I agree.
Thea head looks perfectly fine. I like the way that its kinda pushed forward. Just looks like hes about to explode due to rage lol

Please paint the fella He deserves it

Liking it! A lot.

To my eye, the large helmet is okay, since my eyes read it as "helmet," not "head." Almost like some war mask.

And I really like how the wings are shaping up.

Very cool.

Aaargh! Overdose of awesome. Nice work Lemmingspawn.

Shoulder pads are awesome, and i really like the head. IMHO, it's ready to be painted

Yeah, with the shoulder pads, I now retract my earlier comment of the head looking too large. Especially in the close-up photos it looks just right now.

Lemmingspawn wrote:

gameandwatch wrote:Have you considered doing a partial mask instead? Like not covering the bottom jaw, or having larger eye holes or something? Just curious...

To do that I would have to practically destroy the current head and start again. I'm not sure if I'm ready for that kind of commitment at this point in our relationship...lol

I suppose I might be able to cut the horns off the head in such a way as to allow me to re-affix them at a later stage without too much hassle if I don't like the effect. I'll have a think about it.

Hahaha, alright sweeties ;Y hehe, well, yes i know its more work, and Im not saying I would like it better, I simply feel that you need to somehow show it more of being a mask and not a helmet... Like to see some of that creepo demon poking through...

I LOVE THAT MODEL [/jawdrop]

I really wanna start a Khorne Berserker Planet Strike force now ...

Awsomeness ftw.

The model exudes torrents of gleaming awesome, but the one thing i dislike is the head...

I thought about it, and I think that trimming it down more like this might suit the model better(IMHO, at least).

awsome army here is the start of my nurgle army inspired by yours here is my defiler, what do you think

WOAH dude... Signature move is the Mecha Hump of DOOM!

I like where you are going with it - but I'm not a fan of the legs. How you've started the torso is great - the merging of machine and flesh - nice work. But I think the legs need - something - of which I don't know...

Back to my DP -

I've rebuilt the head - mostly - and here is a pic of what I have done. I couldn't see what it was that people didn't like about it until after I compared the new on with the old. I was even thinking - meh I liked the old one better - but now I see them side by side I realise the error of my ways!

That is truly incredible...I liked the old head but to be honest, both look amazing! It's definately got the look of an Iron Warrior whilst also looking distinctly daemonic...you have a great army!

Thanks, any thoughts on the legs then please let me know. unfortunately i am working with limeted parts but am more than willing to buy new parts to rip apart. anyone have anymore thoughts thenm much appreciated. cheers
shaun

Hey, GREAT WORK MAN! Your stuff is amazing, you can do ridiculously great modelling AND painting! I get neither traits - stupid god!

Loving the look of the army as well, best looking Chaos army ive ever seen! god I hope i play against you sometime, your IW's would hump me silly but it'd be worth it!

Have you considered something like a Tomb King Bone Giant skull for your DP? I think it would look really cool, especially with like a blue glow or watnot that you'd paint in the eyes... Sorry I'm just still not sold on the head, the rest of it looks amazing! but the head... My brother puts skull heads on his termies and they look great, I reckon, coupled with your painting ability a larger scale skull (from wherever! ) look great and give the daemon prince a really cool, impersonal and cold-hearted look... I think I'll love it either way though... keep it up!

x <--- Have a kiss, u've deserved it!

Yea that soulgrinder... Looks... A little 'excited'. Might want to move the cannon up... A lot

metallifan wrote:Yea that soulgrinder... Looks... A little 'excited'. Might want to move the cannon up... A lot

Slaneeshi!

WAIT!!!

Soul grinders dont even have battlecannons!


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Oh.. its a defiler...

its ment to be a defiller, thats what i thought was the point of conversions, the different

Don't derail the thread lads...

I like the new head but I liked the old one as well, it was kinda man in the iron mask.

I still can't get used to the speargun hand though, it just looks too weedy...

i agree there are never too many mechs
yours rock

O_O!!!!!!!!!!! GREATEST! ARMY! EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A while ago i replied to this forum while it was quot unquote "dead", now its brought back to life, lemmingspawn im glad to see you posting your models again, because they are the main inspiration for my chaos army. After i say your upright defiler, i shall no longer have a defiler, or soulgrinder, on all 6 legs. Thank you.....your awesome.