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GOU
Mastery 3
Plague Flail
250pts

2 Heralds of Nurgle
Mastery 2
Greater Reward
Greater Loci
Etherblade
150pts each

Epidemus
110 pts

20 Plaguebearers
Plagueridden
Ether Blade
Instrument
Icon/Plague banner
225pts

20 Plaguebearers
Plagueridden
Ether Blade
Instrument
Icon/Plague banner
225pts

1 Beast of Nurgle
52pts

1 Beast or Nurgle
52pts

1 Beast of Nurgle
52pts

3 Plague Drones
Plaguebringer
Ether Blade
Icon
Rot proboscis
161 pts

Deamon Prince of Nurgle
2 Greater rewards
Lesser Reward
Warp-forged Armour

4 Nurgling Bases
60pts

4Nurgling Bases
60pts

Aegis Defense Line
Comms Relay
70pts

Total 1847

I will be running this list in a tourney next month what do you guys think?

Too many points in HQ units - 550 points into them there. I would lose the flail on the GUO - mastery 3 and that is it. Lose the Beasts as a 1 of - they will get wrecked that way imo.

Daemon prince imo should be just 3 mastery levels and warp forged - then roll him on biomancy. A bit more expensive but with Endurance/Iron Arm he becomes a wrecking ball - he is slow but DS him off the Plague Drones.

Your big asset to run up the tally are nurgle grinders - I would have 2 of them - probably lose the Nurglings for them - and maybe the Daemon prince - but definitely 1 herald can go. Be sure to put Phlegm on the grinders.

Confused by 3 nurgle heralds (2 normal, one epidemius), but only 2 groups of plaguebearers.

Yea but not only are grinders over rated there pretty expensive so two is def outta the question, i was however considering dropping the demon prince for another Plague bearer squad and Herald and its actually 660 points in HQ I know its alot but Heralds are necessary to make a unit of Plaguebearers tough enough to win through sheer numbers. The greater rewards give the DP a better chance of a stat buff without rolling for. Im looking to kill troops stay alive and hold objs in the enemy backfield not super killy Epidemus is only in there cause i had 113 points left over if her dies no biggy. the beast of nurgle arew T5 have four wounds, it will not die and can move through sitting in even a forest it has a 3+ cover save and once it charges the opponent will have to allocate only some of its attacks to them forcing them to make a choice swing at the beast or the twenty PBs with a Herald in your face

Edit: He will just join one of the units of PBs

Im not sure how an av13 shrouded 4 hp walker with an autocannon and a battle cannon and skyfire is over rated when any punk with a power fist can instant kill your dp who costs 40 pts more than the soul grinder...its not an issue of dp vs grinder i make room for both but i think it is a mistake to dismiss what the grinder can do for the tally with 3 s7 shots and a s8 ap3 large blast every round...

I like the list though and would like to hear how it goes...i would consider losing some nurglings for some basic 90pt ten strong bearers to grab objectives since you have only 2 scoring troops who will be deployed offensively meaning no back field scoring and a loss of victory points out of the gate if there are more than 2 objectives

Well a DP is T5 so only a captain/special character could instant kill him, im not saying that Grinders arent awesome im saying that people rely to heavily on them and end up losing the game if they lose one or two of them and they have giant shoot me signs on them.
With two greater rewards on the DP its almost impossible not to roll something that will make him even harder to kill.
I also dont wanna solely base list on the tally either is just a perk.
Lastly i dont believe in back field scoring, i usually place my objs in the middle of the table in order to put every unit in combat instead of having them in the back cut off from any support

Edit: your right tho another scoring unit would be a good idea but nurglings are so good at what they do its hard to over look them. You can easily tie up a unit on your first turn if the terrain and deployment are good.

Even still...you can only claim 2 objectives...why limit yourself in an area that determines most victories?

I love the nurglings but their use is very limited and they are very vulnerable to instant death

your right i just picked up a soulgrinder ill be working on some number im gonna get rid of Nurglings and defense line maybe. but that other unit of PBs might be useful.

Edit: But this BS 3 WS 3 is worrying me thinking of running warpsword instead of Phlegm dont know yet tho

I havent come up with a new list but i played two games with the SG at 1000 points and they are as most of you say a necessity especially when running mono-nurgle

Plauge drones and Soul Grinders worked well for me last time I played.

I'd move them in concert, shoot with both, and then jet pack the drones in a position to grant my grinders cover against my opponent's heavy weaponry, forcing them to choose between the AV13 3++ walker or the T5 "you'll only do one wound with a lascannon" screen, also with a 5++ or 3++ if they made it to cover.

Do Plague Drones really obscure 25% of a Soul Grinder?

They are large

honestly 25% is not that hard some people try to push the envelope it only 1/4 if you can cover a portion of the bottom half your good.
why not move everything up in cover so the drones always have there 3+.
Im actually running two grinders so ill prolly deep strike one.

 ApostleofthPLague wrote:
honestly 25% is not that hard some people try to push the envelope it only 1/4 if you can cover a portion of the bottom half your good.
why not move everything up in cover so the drones always have there 3+.
Im actually running two grinders so ill prolly deep strike one.

Ideally, that's what you'd want. The only peril with putting Drones in cover is their dangerous terrian checks. Of course, they can survive those quite handily, but it invariably happens when you can least afford to take a wound.

 ApostleofthPLague wrote:
honestly 25% is not that hard some people try to push the envelope it only 1/4 if you can cover a portion of the bottom half your good.
why not move everything up in cover so the drones always have there 3+.
Im actually running two grinders so ill prolly deep strike one.

Bottom half of a soul grinder is quite hard to cover, its the model you have to obscure not the big gap between his legs!, saying that the plague drones are quite big

No it is not hard at all you must be one of those types. i just came from my first tourney I won 2/5 games not bad considering two of the three I lost was against GK. Soulgrinders only died in one of those games and only one because I took him out of cover. Here's the list I decided on
HQ Units
Greater Unclean One (Warlord) 220pts
Lesser Reward (Plague Flail)
Greater Reward (Balesword)
Herald of Nurgle 125pts
Lesser Reward (Etherblade)
Greater Reward (Greater Etherblade)
Greater Loci of Fecundity
Mastery Level 1
Herald of Nurgle 125pts
Lesser Reward (Etherblade)
Greater Reward (Greater Etherblade)
Greater Loci of Fecundity
Mastery Level 1



Troop Units

15 Plaguebearers 155pts
Icon
Instrument

15 Plaguebearers 155pts
Icon
Instrument

3 Nurgling Bases 45pts

Elite Troops

2 Beasts of Nurgle 104pts

Fast Attack Units

6 Plague Drones of Nurgle 327pts
Plaguebringer
Lesser Reward (Etherblade)
Rot Proboscis
3 Death Heads

Heavy Support Units

Daemon Prince 230pts
Daemon of Nurgle
Warpforged Armor
Daemonic Flight
Lesser Reward (Plague Flail)

Soul Grinder 180pts
Daemon of Nurgle
Phelgm Bombardment

Soul Grinder 180pts
Daemon of Nurgle
Phelgm Bombardment

TOTAL 1846pts


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I got a great idea for how mono burgle works now. We can hold odjs anywhere on the board in ruins or cover with a herald and Fnp in one game I only lost five out of thirty. The Plague drones are extremely useful no matter how you use them way more efficient then beasts. Whom I failed to successfully roll any IWND rolls in all five games.

I've been working on making them as competitive as possible and what I'm having a lot of joy with is

GUO
Lesser gift

Epidemius

HoN
Greater Locus

3 units of 10 plaguebearers
a unit of 20 for the herald to go in

2 units of two beasts to sit beside my units on objectives

3 plague drones for some speed

2 soul grinders with phlegm bombarmnet on a shield pad

flying DP


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Also your GUO can't have a flail and sword AFAIK

You can both a greater and lesser reward but you have to choose which one you attack with. U have to have both to gain the extra close combat attack because they are specialist weapons

I've decided to add two heralds of tzeenth to cast prescience on my Soulgrinders so I can re-roll my shot and an aegis line with the heavy four twin linked gun