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Edit: deleted this one because i zogged up.

Edit: The ammendments say warbikers no longer get Furious Charge, but do nob bikers get Furious Charge? It says warbiker mobs, not nob warbikers.

Can I take a ork trukk as a troop choice to meet the FOC or must it always be a dedicated transport? Cause its on the page of troops.

Sorry man you gonna have to buy the books for those answers. GW really doesn't like us posting things like that online. The back of the BRB has a pretty decent breakdown of all the units at the time, Berserkers may have changed, but it should give you a rough estimate

First question is prohibited by forum rules, not sure about the second, but I can answer the third no problem. Trukks are not troop choices. They can only be purchased as dedicated transports, which can be irritating when you want one for a unit very well suited to it (burna boyz, in my case) but you have to purchase it elsewhere and load in on turn one. This is compounded by the fact that a boyz mob is not allowed to take one unless they're under thirteen members, so you either have a weedy squad or you need to purchase it for some Nobz.

Essentially Dakka is not a replacement for rules.

1- Check the CSM Codex
2-you do the math
3-If you can take an ork trukk as a troop selection than yes, if not than no.

for basic stats if you just want to know them. search89i for the models on GW's site and they'll usually list the stats.

or buy the book

Snoipah wrote:
Whats the strength of khorne berserkers with chainswords?

The ammendments say warbikers no longer get Waaagh!, but do nob bikers get Waaagh!?

Can I take a ork trukk as a troop choice to meet the FOC or must it always be a dedicated transport?

First, can't answer that here.

Second, do you mean Nob Warbikers??? Think about it.

Third, Whilea trukk is technicaly a troop choice it doesn't take up a force organization slot. Much like a unit of assault marines taking a rhino as a transport. Both the Rhino and the assault squad count as fast attack units and both would garner you points in missions that grant points for destroying fast attack units. The rhino doesn't take up a fast attack slot.

On a note related to orks. If you took two squads of nobs as troops, and three as elites you could have eight battlewagons on the table, two being troop choices, three being elite choices and three being heavy support.

Sorry about that. I wasn't thinking.

I basically just wanted to know if khorne zerkers with chainswords could hurt a deff dread.

So, its impossible to take a trukk as just a trukk? You need it to be carrying troops?

Snoipah wrote:
Sorry about that. I wasn't thinking.

I basically just wanted to know if khorne zerkers with chainswords could hurt a deff dread.

So, its impossible to take a trukk as just a trukk? You need it to be carrying troops?

The rules for boyz and dedicated transports would let you know this. Check page 78 of the BRB bottom left corner for the rules on dedicated transport.
Then compare that to the rules for boyz and trukks in the ork codex bestiary section in the back of the book.,

 Idolator wrote:

Snoipah wrote:
Sorry about that. I wasn't thinking.

I basically just wanted to know if khorne zerkers with chainswords could hurt a deff dread.

So, its impossible to take a trukk as just a trukk? You need it to be carrying troops?

The rules for boyz and dedicated transports would let you know this. Check page 78 of the BRB bottom left corner for the rules on dedicated transport.
Then compare that to the rules for boyz and trukks in the ork codex bestiary section in the back of the book.,

It doesn't really say if you can just take a trukk as a troop choice or not. It says you can take a vehicle as a dedicated transport which prevents it from taking a slot on the FOC, but it doesn't say you can't just take a trukk without any dudes inside and have it count to the FOC.

You can only take items from the FOC
A trukk doesnt exist in the FOC, so you have no way to take it - except when you "unlock" it as a dedicated transport for another unit.

sirlynchmob wrote:
for basic stats if you just want to know them. search89i for the models on GW's site and they'll usually list the stats.

or buy the book

Oh wow, thank you so much!

heh, 4 strength.

I was worried they were like strength 7 or something cause of how much my "friend" boasts about them.

And rage just gives 1 extra attack, and if they get furious charge from something(i think they might) it'll be strength 5, AKA nothing against my deff dread. Mwahahhaha

Also I'm not worried about his Krak grenade. He can only make 10 attacks with them, and needs 3s then 6s to glance. And thats if I don't kill some of them with my scorchas.

MAH ORKZ WILL BE MADE FOR FIGHTAN AND WINNAN

Snoipah wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:
for basic stats if you just want to know them. search89i for the models on GW's site and they'll usually list the stats.

or buy the book

Oh wow, thank you so much!

heh, 4 strength.

I was worried they were like strength 7 or something cause of how much my "friend" boasts about them.

And rage just gives 1 extra attack, and if they get furious charge from something(i think they might) it'll be strength 5, AKA nothing against my deff dread. Mwahahhaha

Also I'm not worried about his Krak grenade. He can only make 10 attacks with them, and needs 3s then 6s to glance. And thats if I don't kill some of them with my scorchas.

MAH ORKZ WILL BE MADE FOR FIGHTAN AND WINNAN

re-read rage please.

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:


re-read rage please.

Yeah thats what I meant, 1 extra attack on the charge. IE 2 extra attacks instead of 1.

Either way, can't hurt my deff dread.

Wait.. what amendment says warbikers no longer have furious charge?

jmswargaming wrote:
Wait.. what amendment says warbikers no longer have furious charge?

Hang on a squig...

*goes to check ammendment website*
*goes to check ammendment page i have*

DAT SNEAKY 'UMIE

WAAAGH